30. Could it be PDA? Exploring the signs and why it’s different from ODD with Prof Tony Attwood and Dr Michelle Garnett

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In this episode, I’m joined by internationally recognised experts in autism, Professor Tony Atwood and Dr. Michelle Garnett, to explore the often misunderstood condition known as Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA). Together, we dive into what PDA really is, how it differs from Oppositional defiant disorder (ODD), and what it means for neurodivergent children and their families.

Key Takeaways:

• Understanding PDA vs ODD: Discover the critical differences between PDA and ODD. Tony and Michelle explain how PDA is rooted in anxiety and a need for control, rather than oppositional behavior. If your child’s refusal feels irrational or emotionally charged, it could be PDA, not ODD.
• Why Neurotypical Parenting Methods Don’t Work: Traditional approaches like rewards and punishments often fail when dealing with PDA. Learn why neurotypical parenting methods can damage relationships and what strategies work better for children with PDA.
• Real-Life Examples You Can Relate To: From the anxiety behind refusing simple tasks like brushing teeth or getting dressed to avoiding even activities they love, Tony and Michelle share real-life examples that will resonate with any parent navigating these challenges.
• Support That Works: We discuss the importance of creating a safe and flexible environment for your child, reducing their anxiety, and building a relationship based on understanding and cooperation.

This episode is a must-listen if you’ve ever struggled with a child who refuses simple tasks, even when they want to do them. Tony and Michelle’s insights will not only validate your experience but also offer hope and actionable strategies for managing PDA in a way that nurtures your relationship and reduces anxiety for your child.

Resources Mentioned:

• Season 2, Episode 5: What Every Mum Needs to Hear from Top Autism Expert with Prof Tony Attwood: Listen on Apple Podcasts or Spotify
• Tony & Michelle's Course on PDA: Learn more here
• Connect with Tony & Michelle on Instagram here

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