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K9 Detection Collaborative

Stacy Barnett, Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing

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Candid conversations about the reality of training, deploying, or competing with a canine partner. Each episode is a cross pollination from the professional and sport canine camps, exploring how we all want the same thing: A great relationship with our dog.With humor, and a big dose of theory, we talk practical training advice and includes interviews with top trainers and scientists. We keep it fun, honest, and rated PG 13ish.
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Dive into the world of CPR, First Aid, EMT, American Red Cross Instructor, and Lifeguard training with our podcast tailored for current and aspiring business owners in this lifesaving education field. Gain insights into running a successful lifesaving training business, including navigating American Red Cross and American Heart Association modules. Whether you’re a seasoned professional or just starting out, our expert advice and industry tips will help you elevate your training services to ...
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What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett and Crystal Wing explore the intricate world of displacement behaviors in dogs. They kick off by discussing recognizing these behaviors, which often arise from stress, frustration, or internal conflict in our canine companions. Our hosts share p…
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Send us a text Join Dave Kotz from the National Safety Training Center as he visits Jaco Beach with Mar Chen, the lifeguard supervisor, discussing the beauty of the beach, surfing conditions, and the safety measures in place, including rescue equipment and the importance of education on water safety. This episode also highlights the international s…
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What to listen for: "I found that the things I taught in higher arousal have held up better in higher arousal environments. The things done very slowly in lower arousal haven’t held up as well." Ever wondered why some detection dogs excel under pressure while others not so much? Join in exploring the dynamic world of canine detection training, guid…
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Send us a text Description: Welcome to another exciting episode of The LIFESAVING CHRONICLES, brought to you by the National Safety Training Center! In this episode, host Dave Kotz enters the fascinating world of trauma education with special guests David Parry from Techline Technologies Incorporated and Steve Wisner, an experienced instructor at t…
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What to listen for: Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips for creating a training plan and measuring your progress without the help of an in-person mentor. Crystal sets the stage with a top ten list that includes strategies such as assessing your current skill level, setting long and short-term goals, varyin…
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What to listen for: Odor detection handling mastery comes down to hitting that delicate balance between doing too much and too little for your dog–the ability to offer intimate guidance while nurturing confidence. Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing offer their best tips and strategies for using your presence as a handler to nu…
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What to listen for: Today our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing walk us through essential strategies for fostering independence and courage in dogs (and trainers!). They share their insights on avoiding the pitfalls of being an overprotective "helicopter handler" and how to allow your canine companion the freedom to explore their…
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Send us a text Welcome to another episode of the LIFESAVING CHRONICLES podcast, brought to you by the National Safety Training Center! In this episode, host Dave Kotz speaks with Jay, the lifeguard manager at Seabright Beach Club, to discuss the unique challenges and experiences of lifeguarding at an oceanfront facility compared to pools and lake c…
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What to listen for: “Every distraction is a possible reinforcement.” Could minor changes in your training strategy routine drastically improve your dog's performance? Join Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing as they uncover the secrets behind intentional handling, drawing from their recent experience at Distraction Camp. From hide settin…
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Send us a text In this episode, we go into the essentials of preparing for and succeeding at an Instructor Trainer (IT) Academy. Whether you're aiming to become a Lifeguard Instructor Trainer (LGIT) or a Water Safety Instructor Trainer (WSIT), this episode is packed with valuable advice and practical tips to help you excel. Key Topics Covered: *Pre…
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What to listen for: “Even if you don't give them a cookie, you don't play, the dog has been reinforced. [It’s] just the way their brain works.” Our hosts, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss how to use known hides to your advantage during training as compared to blind hides. They dive deep into the high stakes of detection work, …
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Send us a text Welcome to Episode 8 of The LIFESAVING CHRONICLES podcast! Join Dave Kotz and Anna Unruh from the National Safety Training Center as they go deep into the essentials of preparing for a Lifeguard Instructor Trainer Academy (LGIT) or a Water Safety Instructor Trainer Academy (WSIT) offered by the American Red Cross. In this episode, yo…
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What to listen for: “So I think dog training is almost 90% thinking and preparing, and 10% working with your dog.” Two of our three hosts, Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down for part 2 with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. What happens when…
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Send us a text Join host, Dave Kotz in this episode of the LIFESAVING CHRONICLES as he sits down with special guest, Steven Murphy, to discuss the R24 lifeguarding program with a focus on lifeguard instructor recertification. In this engaging conversation, Steve shares his extensive experience in aquatics, including his background as a lifeguard, s…
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Send us a text In this episode, host David Kotz interviews Bridget Tierney, the aquatics director at the beautiful Deer Lake Club in Boonton, New Jersey. Join us as we dive into the unique challenges and rewarding experiences of lifeguarding in a lake environment. Episode Highlights: Introduction to Deer Lake Club: Learn about the stunning aquatic …
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Send us a text Welcome back to the LIFESAVING CHRONICLES podcast! I'm your host, Dave Kotz, and in today's episode, we had the pleasure of speaking with Steven Murphy, a seasoned lifeguard instructor and the owner of Missouri Aquatics Training and Education Solution (MATES). With a rich background that includes military service and a career in hist…
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Send us a text Join Dave Kotz from the National Safety Training Center and special guest Alex Palumbo, an American Red Cross instructor trainer, as they delve into the intricacies of managing a classroom when things don't go as planned. In this episode, they share their wealth of experience and discuss various scenarios, from handling participants …
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Send us a text In this episode, we dive into the new American Red Cross lifeguarding curriculum, R24, with a panel of experienced lifeguard instructor trainers. They discuss the updates, new additions, and changes in the program, providing valuable insights and perspectives. From the prereqs to the new surveillance portion and the use of virtual re…
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Send us a text In Episode 2 of the LIFESAVING CHRONICLES Podcast, I had the pleasure of discussing CPR equipment for CPR businesses with Dan Costagna from Emergency Care Health and Safety. We delved into various types of mannequins, including Preston mannequins, Big Red mannequins, and Laerdal QCPR Annie mannequins. Dan shared his experiences and p…
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Send us a text Synopsis: In this episode, founder and host, David Kotz, will walk you through the origins of his training center, from the humble beginnings of Mine Brook Search and Rescue to the expansive reach of their training programs today. Discover how they've grown, the challenges they've faced, and the exciting future that lies ahead. Discl…
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What to listen for: In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, Our hosts Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett sit down with Adee Schoon, an expert in the detection field with over three decades of experience, to explore her diverse and groundbreaking projects. Prepare to be fascinated by Adee’s incredible journey, from her early days researching sce…
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What to listen for: Today, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing address a common concern among handlers: what to do if your dog is having trouble finding the source of an odor during a training search. First thing’s first: “Your dog is just giving you information. It’s not personal. They don’t have it out for you!” Fixing this problem sta…
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What to listen for: "Physical agility gives them some mental agility too, and so it's giving them that well-exercised brain, and then that's helping them make decisions, helping them solve problems." Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing break down the components and applications of functional agility. They offer a roadmap…
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What to listen for: “When you have that young dog, don’t put out that super hard hide. You don’t have that reinforcement history.” Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing discuss one of the most crucial elements of canine nosework: hide placement! Listen in as the Dames of Detection walk us through what we need to consider regardin…
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What to listen for: “Success is the joy that we have with our dogs and the relationships that we're building.” Ever wondered how small victories can pave the way to grand achievements with your canine companion? Our hosts Robin Greubel, Crystal Wing, and Stacy Barnett, come together for an insightful discussion on the nature of success in canine de…
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What to listen for: “My job as a coach is not to identify your destination, but your goal, and to help you identify and remove roadblocks to your goal.” Today, our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing unearth valuable lessons from coaching humans that handlers can apply when training canine companions. They talk about what it means …
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What to listen for: “We're dealing with a dog who has its own set of motivators. And so we just need to always be conscious of the fact that we can reinforce at any point along the chain.” Unleash the power of your canine's nose and transform your four-legged friend into a search-and-rescue superhero with insights from our hosts, Robin Greubel, Sta…
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What to listen for: How do you define “struggle” in dog training? Today, our hosts, the Dames of Detection, Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing are breaking down just that, sharing potent personal stories that will shift your perspective on canine learning curves. Together, they probe the gap between expectation and reality, dissecting h…
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What to listen for: Our hosts Robin Greubel and Stacy Barnett dive headfirst into the high-stakes world of canine explosive detection with an esteemed panel of experts, Dr. Lauryn DeGreeff, Dr. Michele Maughan, and Jenna Gadberry. As they dissect the complexities of non-detonable canine training aids, you'll get a rare behind-the-scenes look at the…
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What to listen for: Our hosts reflect on the two-episode series (#102, #103) with Martha Hoffman. From the observant gaze that discerns the subtlest of animal signals to the challenges shorter dogs face in detection work, they uncover the profound connection between keen observation and effective communication with our canine companions. This episo…
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What to listen for: “The odor that they get reinforced for may not be the odor that you think you’re reinforcing. So, odor obedience is starting by building (in my mind) a reinforcement system.” Unlock the secrets behind the incredible resolve of detection dogs to seek out the right scent in any situation. From bounding into untamed thicket to swim…
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What to listen for: Join in as K9 Detection Collaborative hosts Robin Greubel and Crystal Wing continue their conversation with Martha Hoffman, delving into the nuanced world of dog training around the world! They discuss the unique insights gained from working with various dog breeds in bite sports. Listen in as they tackle the intricate topic of …
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What to listen for: The Dames of Detection, are joined by Martha Hoffman, who is acclaimed for her work with the San Francisco SPCA in training rescue dogs as service animals. Martha unravels the mysteries behind canine temperaments suitable for service work, focusing on the essential trait of positive sound reactivity. As Robin, Crystal, and Marth…
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What to listen for: “I look at the dog and if something goes wrong I say, ‘Thank you for the information.’ As dog trainers, we modify behavior and in order to modify behavior we have to be able to take good data.” Our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing explore the intricate dance of dog training, where the art of tinkering plays a…
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What to listen for: "I appreciate the fact that our little collaborative thing has allowed us to have some of these really, really hard conversations in a public format." Welcome to episode 100 of the K9 Detection Collaborative with the Dames of Detection themselves - Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing! It feels like just yesterday when…
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What to listen for: "As a trainer, no matter what you're doing with your training or where you are, what level you are, how advanced you are, how new you are, whatever, it should always be about growth because if you're not growing, you're stagnating.” In this episode of K9 Detection Collaborative, we’re treated to the return of all three of the Da…
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What to listen for: “How well does the dog actually understand target odor? Part of the issue is that we think we've taught the dog to alert on a birch container. But in some cases, if you don't train with distractions enough, for instance, the dog is going to alert on what they think is just the non-empty box. So what you think you’re training may…
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What to listen for: “If you have a good reinforcement system, it really doesn't take long. And that reinforcement system is how you pay the dog for doing whatever work you're asking it to do. And you actually have to teach and learn how your dog likes to be reinforced.” Whether it be Robin’s knee surgery or Crystal’s voiceless bout with a nasty col…
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What to listen for: “Conservation dogs have been around for maybe 20, 30 years, starting to grow in popularity. But more conversations need to be happening, and dogs are so amazing, and such valuable tools.” With all the amazing stories you’ve heard about our furry companions in the first 95 episodes of K9 Detection Collaborative, you probably aren…
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What to listen for: “Be kind and open and giving, even when they don't know anything, that's okay, still give and still branch out. And that's where those connections happen. And it's magic. And I'm so thankful for all these connections.” Ever wondered how your training methods truly impact your loyal canine? Join our hosts Robin Greubel, Stacy Bar…
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What to listen for: “I think I've made a lot of personal growth. I was okay with it. I was like, ‘you know, what? Yeah, it's a bummer.’ Powder did the best she could have done and I'm human. And you know, what, 15 seconds? Well, whatever, who cares? And so then the next summit the next weekend, she won high in trial.” Our hosts Stacy Barnett, Robin…
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What to listen for: “When I'm getting ready for trials, I feel like that week before I'm not building new skills. I'm building the relationship and the joy of training and I'm building confidence for both of us that we both are like ‘oh yeah, we got this we're a great team.’” Our hosts Stacy Barnett, Robin Greubel, and Crystal Wing share their late…
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What to listen for: “That's the hard part. That paralysis that you can get into of being afraid to train something because it can make things a lot harder. So, what I would say is, don't be afraid. Experiment a little bit. You can always modify a little, you can always rename something, you can always tweak something.” Today Robin, Stacy, and Cryst…
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What to listen for: “I've had lots of people ask me questions about, should you train your dog to tell you that nothing's there. And I was like, no, you should be good enough…Lee knew there was nothing there. But this is the protocol that we use. So we have to do this. And I absolutely don't believe in training your dog to tell you that odor is not…
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"It's about living in the now and to keep going and to keep working and keep doing. And it's almost like behavior momentum. I think about in our training with our dogs, it's the same thing for us. It's not going to serve us so recognize the feeling, and then continue to train, continue to go, continue to do, and then what will happen will happen.” …
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What to listen for: “You see two types of canine handlers on the professional side; the ones that do it as a job, and the ones doing it as a career. The ones that do it for the general love, and the ones doing it for the paycheck. And I see the ones that are doing it for the love have such a better outcome of everything as far as quality of career,…
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What to listen for: “I have a nice-looking lab that wants to come up and be friendly with you and if all of a sudden he sits next to you and starts salivating I'm like ‘Okay, now we got to talk.’ That’s his alert, is a sit and when he smells gasoline or a light distillate he really salivates because he associates the smell of the accelerant with fo…
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What to listen for: “Finding those little ways to help you get back on track, and the appropriate people to talk to, so that you can do mental management of expectations of yourself is really important.” Have you ever felt the weight of life’s rough roads and unexpected turns affecting your motivation to train your dogs? In this engaging episode, t…
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What to listen for: Step into the world of canine detection with the Dames of Detection, themselves - Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing - as they journey through the three most recent guests, Ronny LeJeune, Christi Raak, and Jill Kovacevich, and share unforgettable insights from these value-packed episodes of K9 Detection Collaborative…
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What to listen for: The time has come, once again, for Stupid Question Day! Of course, there are no stupid questions. In fact, The Dames of Detection - Robin Greubel, Stacy Barnett, and Crystal Wing - were very impressed with this round of questions! Key Topics (Questions): How do you guys manage to do everything you do and still train your own dog…
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