Doing Hard Things (with Bobby Berk, Abby Wambach & Glennon Doyle)

You and Me Both with Hillary Clinton

If nothing else, the past year has taught us that we can do hard things — from battling the fear, loss, and isolation of this pandemic to confronting racial injustice and fighting to make our democracy stronger. On today’s episode, we hear from three people who have done hard things, and inspired others to do the same.

Hillary talks to Bobby Berk, who left his Missouri home at age 15 when he realized he couldn’t survive there as a gay teen. He went on to create his own design company and now stars as the interior design expert on Netflix’s Queer Eye. She then speaks with her favorite power couple, soccer star Abby Wambach and bestselling author Glennon Doyle, about confronting shame, homophobia, addiction, and sexism in professional sports.

Bobby Berk is an interior designer and television personality. He stars in Queer Eye on Netflix as the interior design expert. In 2015, he launched his full-service bespoke interior design practice Bobby Berk Interior + Design.

Abby Wambach is a two-time Olympic gold medalist, FIFA World Cup Champion, and six-time winner of the U.S. Soccer Athlete of the Year award. An activist for equality and inclusion, she is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Wolfpack as well as the adaptation of Wolfpack for the Next Generation, an instant New York Times bestseller.

Glennon Doyle is a writer who came to prominence as the creator of the blog Momastery. She went on to write several best-selling memoirs, including Carry On, Warrior, Love Warrier, and her latest, Untamed.

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