Episode 51: Love and Happiness

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Episode 51: Love and Happiness

Lemuel: I am Lemuel Gonzalez, repentant sinner, and along with Amity Armstrong, your heavenly host, I invite you to find a place in the pew for today’s painless Sunday School lesson. Without Works.

Amity: We start with a story of a man who is a shame to the cloth in a short segment of

Get the Behind Me, Felicia

Lemuel: I will start the conversation this way: We will have Amity read all of the negative statements Jesus made about homosexuals and homosexuality. All of the moral correction he directed as the founder of the Christian faith, the head of the Chirsitian Church, and as I believe, God made manifest on earth.

Amity: (twenty seconds of silence)

Lemuel: This has been a reading of the holy scriptures where the Lord Jesus Christ condemning homosexuality. In all of the accepted canon, Jesus offers not a word. Why not? There were obviously homosexual men and women in Jesus’ time, and he had not a word to say against them. Of his disciples no one has anything to say. It falls again on Paul, a man who claims the authority Christ gave to Saint Peter, to nourish the new Church, to carry the baggage of Mosaic Law into the new faith.

Amity: Two thousand years years later, this dynamic continues. This time continued by “Pastor” Dillon Awes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4fcQ55Urjc

https://www.newsweek.com/pastor-gay-people-solution-killings-bible-1714037

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Amity: Next up, we take a moment to consider something very familiar through a new lens in The More You Know.

"Pray then like this: 'Our Father in heaven, hallowed be your name. Your kingdom come, your will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.'"

Jesus was a very practical prophet, and he spent his time in action. He did not spend hours conceiving and embroidering elaborate prayers. When asked for a prayer from one of his disciples he produced this. There are two versions of it, in the gospels of Matthew and Luke, with slight variations. Some scholars think this reflects the shift from a mostly Jewish Christianity to a Universal Christianity.

The Lord’s Prayer is an interesting example of how things have been added to the actual scripture. I learned the prayer with the addition of the Doxolgy, a hymn in praise to God.

the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen

I always assumed, growing up in the church, that this was a part of the prayer. It was not said by Jesus, but is included in the King James translation of the scripture. This is based on those translators using what they thought was an ancient manuscript. It is actually now a part of the prayer, though it was originally a part of the call and response of the early Church.

We have posted some alternative translations of this prayer. Why? Because the KIng James Translation, so well known and memorized, has errors in it. Pope Francis bright attention to this when he addressed the line, “ …And lead us not into temptation.”

“It is not a good translation because it speaks of a God who induces temptation. I am the one who falls. It’s not him pushing me into temptation to then see how I have fallen.”

Here are some examples of other versions of the Lord’s Prayer.

https://www.lords-prayer-words.com/lord_contemporary_message_bible.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Prayer#:~:text=%22Pray%20then%20like%20this%3A%20',deliver%20us%20from%20evil.'%22

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jun/06/led-not-into-temptation-pope-approves-change-to-lords-prayer#:~:text=Now%20Pope%20Francis%20has%20risked,Conference%20of%20Italy%20last%20month

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