Hard Knock Radio Discusses the State of White Supremacy and Resistance: A Conversation with Dr. James Lance Taylor, Dr. Melina Abdullah, and Daryle Lamont Jenkins PT.2

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On a recent episode of Hard Knock Radio, host Davey D welcomed three distinguished guests—Dr. James Lance Taylor, Dr. Melina Abdullah, and Daryle Lamont Jenkins—to discuss the growing influence of white supremacy, the importance of organizing, and the resistance needed to confront these challenges. The conversation covered a wide array of issues, from the policies of the Trump administration to the need for community-based organizing and the historical context of white dominance in America.

Daryle Lamont Jenkins on the Trump Administration’s Impact

Daryle Lamont Jenkins, Executive Director of One People’s Project, shared his concerns about the dangerous team Trump has assembled in his second term. Jenkins highlighted the increasing role of white supremacist ideologies in government, particularly with the rise of figures like Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. He warned that the political establishment, including both the far right and some elements within the Democratic Party, is facilitating the growth of fascism. “We have to pay attention to how we respond,” Jenkins stressed, “because if we wait too long, it will be too late.”

He also discussed the alarming potential of Trump’s policies, such as the challenge to birthright citizenship, and the implications of a “Convention of the States” that could bypass Congress. According to Jenkins, these efforts could lead to further exclusion of marginalized communities.

Dr. Melina Abdullah on Unmasking White Supremacy

Dr. Melina Abdullah, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, expressed concern about the resurgence of violent white supremacy. She pointed to recent events, including the Nazi salute by Elon Musk, as signs of how openly fascist ideologies are becoming. “We’re facing a white supremacy unlike anything we’ve ever seen,” Abdullah said, stressing that this unmasked violence is not only targeting Black people but all oppressed groups.

Abdullah emphasized the need for preparedness, both in terms of community defense and mutual aid. “Don’t be scared. Be prepared,” she urged. She also reflected on the importance of organizing outside the electoral system, recognizing that true power lies in grassroots movements, not in the hands of politicians.

Dr. James Lance Taylor on the Historical Context of White Supremacy

Dr. James Lance Taylor, political science professor at USF, took a historical approach to the discussion, reminding listeners that white supremacy has always been the foundation of American society. He argued that the civil rights victories of the 20th century were anomalies, not the norm. “Racism is the norm in America,” he asserted, noting that periods of peace and progress are exceptions rather than the rule.

Dr. Taylor criticized the myth of American progress, highlighting how the fight against systemic racism is ongoing. He underscored the importance of historical awareness, especially in understanding the limitations of the current political system. “The devil has always been in America,” he remarked, suggesting that the country’s foundations are rooted in oppression.

Organizing and Building Power for the Future

Throughout the conversation, all three guests agreed that resistance must be rooted in organizing at the local level. They pointed to the work of groups like Black Lives Matter and emphasized the importance of community safety, mutual aid, and the protection of Black autonomy. Abdullah called for a focus on organizing “black power” and building strong communities that can withstand the forces of fascism.

Dr. Taylor reinforced the idea that resistance is necessary, stating, “We need to fight wherever we are.” Jenkins echoed this sentiment, stressing the importance of not only recognizing the threat posed by white supremacy but actively combating it through historical awareness and grassroots organizing.

The Role of Electoral Politics in Resistance

The discussion also touched on the limitations of electoral politics. While acknowledging that individuals like Cori Bush have made strides within the system, Abdullah reminded listeners that true freedom comes from collective struggle outside of the political establishment. “The answer to fascism is not Liberalism,” she declared. “The answer is organizing.”

Abdullah also shared her experience with the Black Lives Matter movement and the importance of community defense. “We always win when we organize,” she said, calling for a shift toward more radical organizing strategies.

Conclusion: The Fight for Liberation

The conversation concluded with a powerful message of hope and resilience. While the fight ahead may seem daunting, the guests emphasized that Black people have always overcome oppression. Dr. Taylor reminded listeners of the historical victories of Black communities, while Abdullah and Jenkins emphasized that the future of Black liberation depends on grassroots organizing and collective action.

Listeners were urged to continue fighting for justice, to stay prepared, and to remain committed to building a world free of white supremacy. “We always win,” Abdullah said, “because we never stop fighting for our liberation.”

This insightful discussion on Hard Knock Radio serves as a call to action for those committed to dismantling white supremacy and building a future rooted in justice and equality.

For more on this important conversation, visit One People’s Project, Black Lives Matter Los Angeles, and Dr. James Lance Taylor’s work.

In the second half of the show Davey D spoke with Raj Jayadev of Silicon Valley De-Bug. They discussed the case of Joanne Segovia. Segovia was an executive of the San Jose Police Officers Association (SJPOA). The conversation highlighted systemic inequalities in policing and justice.

A Tale of Two Systems: The Case of Joanne Segovia

Joanne Segovia ran a large-scale opioid distribution ring. Jayadev said she used the police union’s resources to facilitate her crimes. Her drug trade spanned countries like India, China, and Canada. Despite this, she received probation and 100 hours of community service. “Her activities should have frozen the city and made international news,” Jayadev said. “Instead, the case was quietly ignored.”

Her leniency contrasts with how others are treated for smaller offenses. “Thousands of people are in jail pretrial for much smaller charges,” said Jayadev. He emphasized this exposes systemic bias favoring those in power.

Media Silence and Public Outrage

Jayadev criticized the lack of media coverage on the Segovia case. “This should have been international news, but it’s been hushed,” he noted. He contrasted it with high-profile cases involving public officials. Recalls of Chesa Boudin and Sheng Thao received constant scrutiny. Segovia’s case, however, faded from public view. Davey D added, “If I wanted to know about this case, I had to call you.”

Systemic Inequality and the Tale of Two Grandmothers

Jayadev shared another story of a grandmother in San Jose. He described a Black grandmother who faced a felony charge after a misunderstanding.

“She pulled over to rest due to medication,” said Jayadev. Despite doing the right thing, she faced harsh charges and humiliation.

Meanwhile, Segovia received leniency. “Prosecutors claimed her crimes were fueled by addiction,” Jayadev explained. He highlighted how this argument never helps marginalized people.

The Role of Privilege in Policing

Jayadev discussed the broader implications of Segovia’s case. “How did such a sophisticated police force not know about her crimes?” he asked. He suggested this reflects systemic privilege. “The silence protects the myth of policing as virtuous,” he added.

The Path Forward: Advocacy and Accountability

Jayadev continues to advocate for justice and equality. He works with organizations like Silicon Valley De-Bug and Participatory Defense. “We hope to expose the system’s contradictions and push for equal treatment,” he said.

He urged vigilance against power structures that exploit privilege. “Abolition and releasing people from jails are urgent strategies,” Jayadev emphasized.

Closing Thoughts

The Segovia case exposes deep systemic inequalities. Jayadev stated; “This is not just about one crime but a system protecting privilege while punishing the marginalized.” For more information, visit siliconvalleydebug.org.

Hard Knock Radio provides critical platforms for vital discussions. It ensures stories of injustice are heard and addressed.

Hard Knock Radio is a drive-time Hip-Hop talk show on KPFA (94.1fm @ 4-5 pm Monday-Friday), a community radio station without corporate underwriting, hosted by Davey D and Anita Johnson.

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