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Christopher Hope gets a field trip this week, leaving the Red Lion behind for Lewes in Sussex. Chopper is joined by Conservative Party Chairman, Greg Hands and mental health minister and local MP Maria Caulfield, as they went out knocking on doors ahead of next week's local elections. Hands is quick to say that Sunak plays well on the doorsteps, but do the voters we hear from agree? And which former leader would he like to see being more vocal (clue is in the title, listeners).

Plus the Conservative frontrunner for next year's London mayoral election, Samuel Kasumu, tells Chris why he has the backing of senior Tories such as Priti Patel and Grant Shapps, and why he wants to focus on improving the lots of people today and in future, rather than dwelling on Britain's past.

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