Thorin is joined by IWDominate to discuss the declining quality of the LEC, G2 and Fnatic's chances at Worlds 2024, potential changes coming to BDS, and more. Thank you to the sponsors for this episode! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with Mando and get $5 off off your Starter Pack (that’s over 40% off) with promo code BDLS at https://www.shopmando.com!…

Thorin is joined by YamatoCannon to discuss the LEC Season Finals, MAD Lions KOI defying expectations and reaching Worlds, G2 not living up to their potential, the reasons why BDS is missing out on Worlds, Fnatic's chances to become champions this year, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Joey "YoungBuck" Steltenpool to discuss the LEC Season Finals, roster building and player scouting in European League of Legends, how T1 Zeus almost became an LEC player, potential landing spots for Upset and Bo, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Alex "Nymaera" Hapgood to discuss the LEC Season Finals, how MAD Lions managed to defeat G2, why G2 are still in trouble, the Fnatic vs BDS series, previews for this weekend's matches, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Jonas "Memento" Elmarghichi to discuss the upcoming LEC 2024 Season Finals, preview the MAD Lions vs G2 and Fnatic vs BDS matchups, SK and GiantX's odds of upsetting from the lower bracket, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Jensen Goh to discuss Fnatic's monumental throws against G2 in the LEC Summer Finals, why BDS should have gotten better results this split, G2 players who have underperformed, potential landing spots for Upset next year, EU's struggles in the current meta, and more! Thank you to MeUndies for sponsoring this episode! Summer is co…

Thorin is joined by Thomas "Zaboutine" Si-Hassen to discuss LEC Summer Playoffs resultsm Fnatic's big win over G2, the KC vs BDS matchup, SK faltering in key moments, a surprising candidate for the savior of Team Heretics, picks for MVP, and more! Thank you to our sponsor for supporting this episode! Control Body Odor ANYWHERE with Mando and get $5…

Thorin is joined by Christian "IWDominate" Rivera to discuss the LEC Summer Playoffs, the reasons why Dom is losing interest in covering LEC, why the MAD Lions are even more fraudulent than we initially thought, which team is the "Joe Biden" of the league, whether import slots matter anymore, predictions for upcoming games, and more. Learn more abo…

Thorin is joined by Alex "Nymaera" Hapgood to discuss the LEC Summer Playoffs opening matchups, SK Rahel as a possible MVP candidate, the ups and downs of BDS and Fnatic, the professional players who are sitting on the sidelines this split, thoughts on the LEC format, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Jensen Goh to discuss the LEC Summer regular season's conclusion, G2 and Fnatic heading into the Esports World Cup, the new-look KC finally making Playoffs, Rogue's disappointing year, LEC Playoff predictions, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Yamato to discuss week 3 of LEC Summer, Hylissang having possibly the weakest year of his career, whether or not SK is a razor cake, the highs and lows of Fnatic, KC's improved performance in this split, the status of MAD Lions, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Keire to discuss week 2 of LEC Summer, Razork as the front-runner for MVP, Fnatic's biggest problem, Irrelevant potentially being "ELO Hell'd" in SK, why G2 isn't really in any danger, the loss of hype in the Heretics project, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Jonas "Memento" Elmarghichi to discuss G2 opening the LEC Summer season with multiple losses, Fnatic's 3-0 start, the strong synergy between Elyoya and Alvaro, why KC's wins may not be indicative of future success, Vitality's struggles despite a decent looking roster, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoi…

Thorin is joined by Peter Dun, Head Coach for Team Heretics, to discuss the LEC Final of G2 vs Fnatic, the background behind Zwyroo replacing Perkz on team Heretics' lineup, the performances of BDS and Vitality, thoughts on the LEC teams' chances vs the LCK and LPL at MSI, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoic…

Thorin is joined by Jonas "Memento" Elmarghichi, former pro jungler, to discuss the LEC Playoffs, a crucial oversight that many LEC GM's are making, MAD Lions ADC Supa's claim that he's the best ADC in the LEC, Fnatic's firepower vs BDS's strength in coaching, why G2 will be repeat champions, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcas…

Thorin is joined by IWDominate to discuss the ongoing LEC Playoffs, G2 vs Fnatic, Heretics vs SK, Vitality vs BDS, GiantX vs MAD Lions, the mismatched teams in the LEC caused by poor GM'ing, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Zaboutine to preview the LEC Playoffs, discuss why KC failed again + what may happen to Bo in the offseason, analyze G2's defeats in the week 3, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Jensen Goh to discuss Fnatic's triumph over G2 and how much hope Fnatic fans should have, mistakes made by the MAD Lions, areas where KC can improve, another heartbreak week for SK, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Keire to discuss the last week of LEC, Team Heretics' surprisingly strong start, Rogue's continued slump, G2 still looking dominant, KC still looking shaky, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Alex "Nymaera" Hapgood to preview the LEC Spring Split. They discuss whether G2 can be challenged, changes at Heretics, why Karmine Corp is likely to improve now, MAD Lions' chances to have another strong split, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Thomas "Zaboutine" Si-Hassen to revisit their LEC preseason power rankings, praise MAD Lions for achieving 2nd place despite low expectations at the start of the split, discuss what the future of Karmine Corp should look like, celebrate G2's lights out performance in the Playoffs, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visi…

Thorin is joined by Jensen Goh to preview the LEC Playoff matchup between Fnatic and MAD Lions KOI, take stock of the growth of BDS, discuss why G2 is considered the strongest team in the LEC, assess the teams that have been eliminated, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by IWDominate to discuss Karmine Corp benching Coach Yamato, the BDS vs G2 matchup, why Adam could be the linchpin in the series, other LEC Playoff matchups, unpleasant interactions with fans, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Keire to preview the LEC Winter Playoffs, SK and Fnatic's chances as dark horse picks, G2 and BDS's statuses as the top 2 teams after the round robin, why this Vitality roster has no shot at winning the season, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Alex "Nymaera" Hapgood to discuss the electric live atmosphere at LEC, the slow start for Karmine Corp, BDS's undefeated start, the level of play in LEC, G2's early stumbles, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin is joined by Jensen Goh to discuss week 1 of LEC winter, the role and impact of coaches in the LEC, the disappointing starts of Vitality and Karmine Corp, the potential for rising teams such as MAD Lions KOI and SK, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin is joined by Thomas "Zaboutine" Si-Hassen to preview the 2024 LEC Winter Split. Each host gives their ranking list of every team in the league and discuss each team's strengths, shortcomings, and X factors. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

On the season finale, Thorin and IWDominate break down G2's impressive victory over Fnatic, discuss Fnatic's potential offseason roster moves with Razork, critique the casting and opening ceremony for the Grand Finals, preview upcoming the Worlds Qualifying Series between BDS and Golden Guardians, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit p…

Thorin and IWDominate react to the latest results in the LEC Season Finals and discuss MAD Lions' seeming mismatch of players, G2's draft choices, a recent statement from T1 Gumayusi about the state of ADC in LoL, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by Peter Dun, the head coach for Team Heretics, to discuss the opening matches of the LEC Season Finals, reflect on the first year of Team Heretics in the LEC, ponder the level of play from the EU Worlds teams, predict the West's chances at Worlds, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com…

Thorin and IWDominate react to G2's victory over Excel in the Summer Finals, discuss some of the problems with the new LEC format, brainstorm ways to improve the format in the future, reminisce on Mikyx's year so far, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate react to G2's close win over Excel, preview the upcoming playoff match between Fnatic and Heretics, discuss the state of the MAD Lions, revisit the points made by Heretics' coach SeeEl on the LEC format, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate react to the LEC Group Stage results, discuss the epic downfall of Fnatic, decide whether any of the remaining teams can stand up to G2, address the lackluster level of play this year in LEC, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate preview the LEC Summer 2023 Group Stage matchups, discuss why Rekkles almost went to KOI this split, share fun stories about T1 and Team Liquid, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by Christopher "SeeEl" Lee, the strategic coach for Team Heretics, to discuss the conclusion of the LEC summer season, the reasoning behind Evi being hired and remaining at Heretics, the unfortunate performances of Vitality, differences in team and player culture across NA, EU, and Asia, and more! Learn more about y…

Thorin and IWDominate discuss why Noah is the early favorite for LEC MVP, KOI's struggle despite past success, Bo's suspect gameplay, thoughts on every LEC, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by Jakob "YamatoCannon" Mebdi to discuss week 1 of the LEC Summer Split, the background of Vetheo's Kai'Sa, the chronic issue of Vitality's team communications, Fnatic's brilliant start with new ADC Noah, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate preview the LEC Summer Split of 2023, explain why G2 and Vitality are the teams to watch out for, share their final standing predictions, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate discuss the trilling conclusion to the LEC 2023 Spring Split, analyze the reasons why MAD Lions came out on top over BDS, review the options that are available to Vitality heading into summer, preview G2 and MAD Lions' chances at MSI, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate discuss the end to Rekkles and Fnatic's Spring split, preview the lower bracket matchups between G2, MAD Lions, and Vitality, debate whether or not nuc is the real deal, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by Goh "Jensen" "Jensen Goh" Qian Sheng to discuss the continued winning streak of BDS, Vitality coming alive again in the Group Stage, whether Fnatic or Astralis can knock out the MAD Lions, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate discuss the opening matchups to the LEC Spring Group Stage, whether Vitality will be able to rise up to their potential, why G2's team environment is perfect for Hans Sama's comeback, if a support player can truly be called the most valuable player, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by analyst Christopher "Duffman" Duff to discuss thoughts on the end to the Spring Season, Jankos's strong play in spite of his team circumstances, reactions to MAD Lions' recent video showcasing Elyoya's hunger to win, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate discuss the prospect of Photon and Vitality representing the LEC at MSI, use arguments from Doublelift and LS on how western teams should draft, make a surprising pick for where Vetheo should play next, share predictions for the final week of the Spring season, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.c…

Thorin and IWDominate are joined by Vitconnect proclaimer Jakob "YamatoCannon" Mebdi to discuss thoughts on Humanoid and Hylissang, what Yamato needs to see before putting Vitality on top of Europe, stroies about Yamato's time at Fnatic, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate discuss the LEC Winter Final between G2 and MAD Lions, Upset going to Vitality, the latest Rekkles drama, candidates for MVP of the Winter Season, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Peter Dun, Head Coach of Team Heretics, joins Thorin and IWDominate to discuss Dom's criticism of Heretics, preview the upcoming Playoff matches between SK, MAD Lions, KOI, and G2, give live reactions to breaking roster news from Astralis, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices…

Thorin and IWDominate react to the results of the LEC Group Stage, discuss the status of every team still in the running for a playoff spot, make predictions for the weekend's games, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

Fabian "GrabbZ" Lohmann, former Head Coach of BDS, joins Thorin and IWDominate to discuss GrabbZ's history with BDS, the status of every team heading to the group stage, what went wrong with Excel and Fnatic, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation

NOTE: We are aware of the technical issues during the episode. Thorin and IWDominate discuss BDS's surprisingly strong performance, Excel's fall from grace, the matchup between top dogs Vitality and G2, and more! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesLast Free Nation