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Pathfinder

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Pathfinder is Payload’s flagship podcast covering the booming business and pressing policy matters of space. We sit down weekly with the top shot-callers in space to keep you informed, entertained, and up-to date on the top news and trends beyond Earth. In this ~1 hour, talk show-style podcast, Pathfinder host Mo Islam interviews astronauts, administrators, founders, CEOs, military minds, policymakers, and more.
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Space and Things

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A weekly podcast devoted to the exploration of space, with updates on what is happening in the space flight world as well as looking back at some of the key moments and figures involved with the evolution of space flight. Presented by historian Emily Carney and space nerd Dave Giles. More info: https://www.spaceandthingspodcast.com Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/spaceandthings. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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This week on Pathfinder, we explore the future of 3D metal printing and manufacturing with Erik Palitsch and TJ Ronacher, co-founders of Freeform, a pioneering startup aiming to redefine industrial-scale additive manufacturing. Both SpaceX alumni, Erik and TJ share their journeys from leading projects on the Merlin and Raptor engines to co-founding…
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In this week’s pod, we dive into the world of space-based solar power with Baiju Bhatt, co-founder of Robinhood and now founder of Aetherflux, a new startup aiming to change how we think about energy from space. Baiju takes us on his personal journey from building a public company to tackling one of the most ambitious ideas in the space industry. D…
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In this week’s Pathfinder pod, we bring in Karthik Gollapudi, CEO, and Austin Spiegel, CTO, of Sift, as they dive into the company's mission to build software tools for complex machines, with a focus on telemetry solutions. Sift’s platform enables end-to-end data ingestion, real-time analysis, and visualization, helping companies streamline the tes…
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In this week’s Pathfinder pod, Chiara Manfletti, CEO of Neuraspace and former President of the Portuguese National Space Agency, discusses the growing importance of space situational awareness (SSA) and space traffic management. Neuraspace is a Portuguese startup that is developing a software platform that provides satellite operators with risk ass…
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The cost to build a mass scale propellant production system on the Moon? Much less than $100M according to Starpath cofounder and CEO Saurav Shroff. The LA-based startup is developing the infrastructure for lunar resource extraction—including a power plant, a fleet of rovers, and a processing plant. In this episode, Saurav breaks down Starpath's ap…
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This week on Pathfinder, we sit down with Lindsay Kaldon, NASA’s Fission Surface Power Project Manager, to explore NASA's plans for deploying small nuclear reactors on the Moon and Mars as part of the Artemis missions. Before her current role at NASA, Lindsay spent over a decade in the DoD, where she worked as an Air Force officer specializing in e…
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This week on Pathfinder, we welcome back Matt Gialich, cofounder and CEO of AstroForge, to discuss the company’s plans to mine platinum group metals from near-Earth asteroids and its recent Series A funding. In this episode, Matt provides updates on AstroForge’s upcoming missions, the challenges of developing a cost-effective method for extracting …
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This week’s Pathfinder pod features Brian D’Erario, the man who keeps the lights on at Payload as the Director of Client Partnerships. Brian’s role is to bring in all the revenue that makes everything at Payload possible (no pressure, Brian!). With experience working with over 97 partners, Brian has been instrumental in shaping Payload's approach t…
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This week’s Pathfinder pod features Tony Frazier, LeoLab’s newly appointed CEO, to discuss the critical role the company plays in building a living map of orbital activity for space operations. With over $120M of private capital raised, LeoLabs has continued to expand its global network of ground-based radars, currently cataloging over 22,000 objec…
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This week on Pathfinder, we welcome back Andy Lapsa, cofounder and CEO of Stoke Space. Stoke has made remarkable strides since Andy's last appearance on the show two years ago. They've grown to over 140 employees and developed innovative full-flow staged combustion cycle engines and reusable upper-stage prototypes. Andy shares his insights on the c…
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One of the big stories of this year has been the first crewed mission of the Boeing Starliner space craft which has now been at the ISS for 2 months, when it was only scheduled to be there for 8 days. We dig a little deeper and also have a conversation about misinformation. Eric Berger Article: https://arstechnica.com/space/2024/08/yes-nasa-really-…
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This week's Pathfinder features Colin Doughan, CEO of Gravitics, a Seattle-based startup that specializes in the development of modular space infrastructure to support the expansion of stations and orbital platforms. Their primary product is the StarMax module, which can be customized in various sizes to accommodate different launch vehicles and mi…
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This week we talk to Mike Haddad, who retired in 2011 from NASA at Kennedy Space Center (KSC) with 32 years of Flight and Ground systems engineering and operational experience. We find out more about life behind the scenes of the space shuttle and all about the efforts involved to restore some of the hardware that was used back then. Michael Haddad…
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This week's Pathfinder guest is Tina Ghataore, Chief Strategy and Revenue Officer at Aerospacelab as well as CEO of Aerospacelab N.A. With a background in aerospace engineering and extensive experience in business development and strategy, Tina has been instrumental in taking products and services to market in both large and small companies. Aerosp…
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This week, Emily and Dave talk about their favourite space missions, both crewed and uncrewed. What are your favourites? Let us know, we’d love to hear from you. Full show notes: https://spaceandthingspodcast.com/podcast/stp204-our-favourite-space-missions Show notes include links to all articles mentioned and full details of our guests and links t…
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This week on Pathfinder, we feature Kate Kelly, Director of Space and Emerging Programs at BWXT, an 8,000-person firm that specializes in delivering nuclear reactors and components for the Navy, commercial nuclear industry, and advanced technologies. Kate shares her journey into the nuclear and space industry, providing insights into the advancemen…
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This week we lost another of our heroes. Joe Engle the only astronaut to have flown to space on the X-15 and the Space Shuttle died at the age of 91. We wanted to pay tribute to this incredible pilot so we asked Michelle Evans to join us. Michelle previous wrote and released what is the definitive book on the X-15, “The X-15 Rocket Plane: Flying Th…
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Fresh off of a $95M Series B funding round, this week we bring back Ian Cinnamon, CEO of Apex, on to the show. Ian, along with his co-founder Max Benassi, started Apex to address the bottleneck in satellite bus manufacturing. Apex is revolutionizing the small satellite bus market with its productized approach and rapid manufacturing capabilities. O…
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As we move forward with plans to live on the moon, new technology needs to be developed to make this possible, and today we’re talking to someone who is helping to make that happen. Madison Feehan is the founder and CEO of Space Copy who are building 3D printers which will work on the Moon or Mars that will be able to use the resources found their …
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There aren’t many dedicated space economists out there, but today we’re lucky enough to be joined by one. This week’s Pathfinder guest is Pierre Lionnet, Research and Managing Director at Eurospace, who shares his critical and thought-provoking insights into the space economy. Pierre, with a background in engineering and finance, has spent 30 years…
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This week we pay our respects to Bill Anders, the Apollo 8 astronaut who died last month at the age of 90. To help us do this we’re joined by Francis French who had numerous visits to Bill Anders home while writing his book “In The Shadow of the Moon.” Bill Anders Obituary: https://heritageflight.org/about/maj-gen-bill-anders/remembering-bill-ander…
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It’s not every day you get to hear space industry perspectives from a former Hollywood talent agent turned investor. Today we're joined by Mike Palank, General Partner at MaC Venture Capital, who shares his career path and insights into the world of VC. Mike, with a background in the entertainment industry, including working at WME as a talent agen…
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Can you believe it? 200 episodes! Today we bring you something extra special as we interview Sterling Crawford and General Charlie Duke. Sterling recently opened Stall Three Studio in South Carolina and unveiled a brand new portrait of her grandfather General Duke as part of the “Space Exploration: Past Present and Future” exhibit, so we find out m…
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And so this week is part 3 of 3 in which we get to listen to some interviews with Alan Bean conducted by Rick Houston back in 2016. An incredible insight into the mind and life of the 4th person to walk on the moon. Makes sure you listened to parts one and two first! We're also joined by Rick to talk about the what, why and how of these interviews.…
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Ever wanted to hear the firsthand experience of a New Shepard astronaut? Well, today we're joined by Mason Angel, General Partner at Industrious Ventures, who was on Blue Origin’s most recent flight to space. Mason, with a background deeply rooted in industrial sectors like GE and Linde through his family, shares his unique journey and insights int…
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And so this week is part 2 of 3 in which we get to listen to some interviews with Alan Bean conducted by Rick Houston back in 2016. An incredible insight into the mind and life of the 4th person to walk on the moon. Makes sure you listened to last week's episode first. Alan Bean Obituary: https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/family-release-regarding-t…
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This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Ray Allensworth, Spacecraft Program Director at Firefly Aerospace. Ray, who has a previous background with major aerospace names like Raytheon and Northrop, helps lead Blue Ghost, Firefly’s lunar lander program designed to deliver scientific and commercial payloads to the surface of the Moon. The company is …
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A very special episode this week, part 1 of 3 in which we get to listen to some interviews with Alan Bean conducted by Rick Houston back in 2016. An incredible insight into the mind and life of the 4th person to walk on the moon. Alan Bean Obituary: https://www.nasa.gov/news-release/family-release-regarding-the-passing-of-apollo-skylab-astronaut-al…
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This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Jed McCaleb, Founder, and Max Haot, CEO, the leaders behind Vast, a company pioneering the development of commercial space stations. Jed, a seasoned software entrepreneur, and Max, a veteran in space and internet ventures, bring their unique expertise to the ambitious goal of advancing human habitation in sp…
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SpaceX are the number 1 launch provider in the world currently, and author/journalist Brad Bergan has just released a wonderful book about them called SpaceX: Elon Musk and the Final Frontier. So we think it’s about time that we have a conversation about SpaceX. Brad Bergan: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-bergan/ SpaceX - Elon Musk and …
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Over the weekend Blue Origin launched their first crewed mission after nearly two years and today we’re speaking to someone who has won their ticket for one of their future flights. Dr. Eiman Jahangir entered the MoonDAO Ticket To Space raffle and his name was picked out, however, Dr. Jahangir is so much more than a space tourist as you’ll find out…
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This week on Pathfinder, we're joined by Sid Dixit, former CTO of Maxar and a seasoned leader in the space industry. Sid's career spans pivotal roles at Planet, Amazon, and Maxar, where he has been at the forefront of satellite technology, artificial intelligence, and geospatial data platforms. Our discussion delves into the transformative impact o…
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In nearly 200 episodes we’ve never had any in depth discussion about the military uses of space, so we’ve decided this is the week. We’re joined by Dwayne Day, a space historian who is an expert on the history of reconnaissance satellites and it’s a fascinating conversation. Dwayne Day: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwayne-day-41983723/ X: …
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This week on Pathfinder, we’re joined by Sinead O’Sullivan, an economist and board member of the European Space Policy Institute. Sinead has had a unique career, from her early days in aerospace engineering in Northern Ireland to significant roles on Wall Street and at top academic institutions like Georgia Tech and Harvard. In her free time, she’s…
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Ever wondered what life might be like on a remote part of the world while tracking spacecraft and communicating with them? Ever considered the dangers of being in a blockhouse close to a rocket launch as it explodes? Well our guess this week has some stories for you. We speak to Dan Kovalchik who started working on tracking stations and eventually …
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This week’s Pathfinder features Chris Taylor, CEO and founder of Aalyria, a Google spinout that specializes in advanced connectivity solutions. The company is developing what could be game changing free-space optics hardware and network orchestration software to meaningfully change communication speed and efficiency across air, space, land, and sea…
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We can’t get enough of talking about the moon and we love a bit of poetry, so it was a joy talking to Christopher Cokinos for this week’s podcast. Christopher has just released a book called ‘Still as Bright - An Illuminating History of the Moon, from Antiquity to Tomorrow’ - and it’s a must read! Christopher Cokinos: https://www.christophercokinos…
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The first single-stage-to-orbit (SSTO) space plane? That's exactly what we're discussing on this week’s Pathfinder podcast. We interview Livingston Holder, cofounder and CTO of Radian Aerospace, which is developing a fully reusable space plane designed for horizontal launch and landing. SSTO? Essentially, SSTO vehicles are designed to reach orbit u…
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With the recent moon landing attempts by private US companies having some mixed results, it seems that everyone is an expert on how to land something on the moon all of a sudden, well today we speak to an actual expert to find out what's really going on up there. Brandon Dotson has all the degrees and is currently writing a thesis on the difficulti…
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Right on the heels of their $90M funding round, this week’s Pathfinder spotlights Varda and its cofounders, Will Bruey (CEO) and Delian Asparouhov (President). The LA-based startup harnesses microgravity for pharmaceutical development and manufacturing. In its latest mission, the company successfully processed ritonavir, a crucial antiviral drug ut…
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This week we speak to Lisa Young, Supervisory Conservator at the National Air and Space Museum, who has been responsible for the preservation of the spacesuits and spacecraft in the Smithsonian collection. Ever been to a museum and wondered about how they look after the spacesuits? Well Lisa is the expert. Lisa Young: https://www.linkedin.com/in/li…
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Dan Wright is no typical founder. With a formidable background at software powerhouses like AppDynamics and DataRobot, Dan has shifted his focus towards bridging the technological gap in edge computing with his latest venture, Armada. As the world’s first full-stack edge computing platform, Armada integrates computing and AI capabilities directly w…
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On 24th March of this year, George Abbey died at the age of 91. One of the most influencial people working behind the scenes at NASA for many years and someone who has come up many times during many interviews. So we wanted to spend an episode to pay tribute to his contributions. To do this we’re joined by Michael Cassutt, author of the 2018 book “…
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This week, we bring you our second installment of Pathfinder’s special podcast series on the State of the Space Industry. As a reminder, you’ll hear from two members of Payload’s editorial staff on key trends, exclusive interviews, and insights shaping the industry. Today’s episode explores EO & SatCom, featuring Payload’s Research Director, Jack K…
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On April 8th there will be a total eclipse travelling across Mexico, the United States and Canada so today we talk to Stephen Wolfram, who earlier this year released a book called “Predicting the Eclipse: A Multimillennium Tale of Computation.” - we learn about the history of predicting eclipses and so much more. Stephen Wolfram: https://www.stephe…
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Pathfinder is shaking things up for the next two weeks with a special pod series on the State of the Space Industry. In each episode, you’ll hear from two members of Payload’s editorial staff on key trends, exclusive interviews, and insights shaping the industry. This week? Launch & OSAM, featuring Payload’s Managing Editor Jacqueline Feldscher and…
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This week we talk to Dr. Tracy Scott who has just started a project to bring together her own history as an early era “astronaut kid” (daughter of David R. Scott: Gemini 8, Apollo 9, Apollo 15) with her professional expertise as a sociologist and teacher. 100 Patreons By Show 200: https://www.patreon.com/Spaceandthings Dave’s Tour Dates: http://www…
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Sad news this week as the space world mourns the loss of General Thomas P. Stafford, pilot of Gemini 6 and commander of Gemini 9a, Apollo 10 and the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project. A true legend of spaceflight and he will be missed. 100 Patreons By Show 200: https://www.patreon.com/Spaceandthings Dave’s Tour Dates: http://www.davejgiles.com/gigs Tom Sta…
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This week, we're going live from Austin, TX, at Payload’s inaugural event, “The Ultimate High Ground: The Role of Space in National Security,” held during SXSW. Our episode features a fireside chat with Dan Goldin, the longest-serving NASA Administrator, from April 1992 to November 2001. Dan is known for leading NASA’s resurgence during one of its …
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This week we conclude the interviews we recorded at the Smithsonian Air and Space Museum in January by asking about what it means to be a curator at the museum. We had three interview and we spoke to each of the individually about various aspects of life as a curator and have merged those aspects into this episode. We hope that you enjoyed the epis…
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