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The Spin Sucks Podcast with Gini Dietrich

Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks

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We're your one-stop shop for modern communications. The lines between PR, marketing, search, advertising, social, and content continue to blur, making it difficult to decide what belongs where. Rather than decide, let’s come together and work as one to grow organizations. We can change the PR industry...together.
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I got the chance to talk with Annie about nursing and college life! Cover art photo provided by Annie Spratt on Unsplash: https://unsplash.com/@anniespratt
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Remember when clicks, shares, and impressions were reliable measures of success? Those days are gone. In this episode, Gini Dietrich breaks down why AI-generated answers, algorithm-controlled feeds, and private, hidden sharing have fundamentally changed how audiences discover and trust your content. We’re living in a zero-click, zero-share, zero-vi…
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What does it mean to work smarter not harder when it comes to your communications strategy? Often a 'more is more' strategy feels like the way to go - adding content and tasks and tactics, but you'll get much better results if you focus on alignment instead of addition, and that's what Gini Dietrich is talking about this week on the Spin Sucks Podc…
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The expectations for marketing and communications teams are higher than ever, and old systems aren't going to cut it. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how the PESO Model© turns disconnected tactics into aligned strategy, vanity metrics into business results, and overwhelmed teams into confident, focused operators.…
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It seems like AI content is everywhere these days - in your inbox, on LinkedIn - even in major publications. And for all the many amazing ways AI can help make you more effective, it needs to be supervised. Closely. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to walk the line between getting value out of AI …
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In an environment that is constantly changing, you need to make sure that you are in partnership with your clients, and providing the strategy and insight they need to grow. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is walking you through exactly how to change your relationship from vendor to business parter.…
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Last week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich shared the 4 types of data stories you need to communicate your metrics effectively. This week, she is talking about how to take those stories to the next level, and make them relatable to the decision makers you're working with.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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When you're in communications, you need to make data compelling, and the best way to do that is through stories. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the 4 types of Data Stories you need to be able to tease out and share.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Do you know if your client's business is moving forward with all the data collected? This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how you can take your client's data and uncover the why behind the number by asking the questions they haven't asked yet.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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The PESO Model© will help you build an integrated communications strategy, but if you're not measuring the right things - the outcomes it's creating - then you're going to have a hard time proving it. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to stop measuring your activity, and start putting some real numbers around t…
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Doing a little bit of everything - picking and choosing tactics - is NOT using the PESO Model©. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the real power of the model: the integration. When you have a fully integrated PESO Model© strategy, then you have a replicable system that works in your sleep, with each element re-info…
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As economic uncertainty and the pace of technological change increases around the world, the communications plans you made late last year might already need an update. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking you through how you should be reviewing and updating your communications plans in light of this constantly …
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A lot has changed since the PESO Model© was first released in 2014 - marketing and communications have all seen massive change - but the model has been there through it. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is sharing the evolution and elevation of the PESO Model, so that the marketing communications professionals who use…
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AI adoption in the PR industry has been huge, but you're not at risk of being replaced. AI is taking over the work that ultimately, we don't want to be doing, and on today's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is sharing exactly how to get started, and where your human touch is, and will remain, needed.…
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When customer journeys are non-linear, and happening around the world, a one-size fits all approach to marketing an communication just doesn't work - but picking and choosing individual tactics from the PESO Model© won't fix the problem - you need a whole strategy. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how large organi…
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Being a good communicator means being able to effectively tell stories - that is what helps you build trust and relationships. On today's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the stories that work best in business and how you can get comfortable telling them.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Most brand stories miss the mark becuase they're focused on the wrong thing, don't resonate with the intended audience, or lack consistency accross different channels. But there is a way to do it right, and that's exactly what Gini Dietrich is sharing this week on the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Requests for Proposals are the bane of many agency's existence, and although they're popular, they're rarely the best way to stary a new professional relationship. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about a better way to position yourself as an expert and get new business without the proposals.…
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You've seen them on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook and YouTube - they're an increasingly popular and important method of connecting with the people interested in the companies you represent. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to use this format, and how to integrate it into your PESO Model© strategy.…
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If AI is stopping people from clicking through to websites - what is the end goal for our PR work? That's what Gini Dietrich is exploring on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast: the challenges, the opportunities and what you should be tracking and prioritizing as the landscape keeps shifting.…
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Gini Dietrich dives into AI and how PR professionals are the future of marketing. She discussed the future of paid media and using paid strategies to extend your reach with valuable content with the PESO Model. The key isn't reaching the most people; it's reaching the right people.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Your intellectual property is the culmination of your experience, insights and proven methodologies - and you should make sure that your proprietary ideas, productized services and frameworks are unambiguously yours. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is walking you through the exact steps to take to use you IP to becom…
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AI search engines, and even traditional search engines using AI are changing how people look for and find information. For communicators, this means we need to update the way we're using the PESO Model© to make sure we're getting found where people are looking. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is telling you how.…
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The magic of the PESO model is integration between the different media types. Often the lines are blurred between the elements and that means you're doing it exactly right. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to be omnipresent, and why you need to create an environment around each opportunity you hav…
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More and more of the public have trust issues with companies and media. Gini Dietrich reviews the Annual Edelman Trust Barometer Report and how you can use the PESO Model to address trust challenges in today's communication landscape.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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A mistake that companies and individuals often make with the PESO Model© is treating it like a checklist of tactics rather than what it really is - an integrated strategy. On This week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to make sure you're getting all of the benefits of the system - not just a few wins here and …
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Search is always changing, and as communications professionals, we don't always stay up to date on the latest. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is sharing how you should be updating your SEO strategy in 2025 to make sure that the people who need to find your content, do.…
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There are things AI can do. Lots of them, in fact. But it can't do everything and it can't replace a solid communications plan and team. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how AI can enhance your PESO Model© Strategy in 2025 - complete with measurement and integration.…
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Competing priorities - goals and budget, immediate results and long term sustainability, efficiency and authenticity - communications is full of them. But that friction can be the source of the best, most creative and most profitable work your company does. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to make…
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Communications and PR has always been a fast-changing industry, but something that has never changed is the importance of trust, credibility and authenticity. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about what you need to think about as you work on your Earned Media strategy going into 2025.…
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To create a truly effective communications program, you need to understand how the organization you're working with measure success - that is going to be the foundation of how you communicate the results of your work. In this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the best ways to demonstrate the results of your wo…
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Linking PR and communications work directly to business outcomes has always been a challenge, but a shocking percentage of us are not using all of the tools available, or are not using them correctly, to make it easier. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how important it is to have your results tied wit…
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The new Earned Media landscape demands a different approach than we've used in the past, and it also offers new opportunities to connect more closely with the stakeholders that matter the most. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how to make content that can be adapted and transformed for new channels.…
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If you're horrified by the very idea of a post-truth country, then you're probably thinking about what you can do to help spread the truth in your role as a communicator. Gini Dietrich is talking about how to fight the three headed monster of modern communications: misinformation, disinformation and malinformation using regular truth audits on this…
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Disinformation is everywhere, and it reflects a fundamental shift in how information is shared. The challenge of maintaining truth in the public sphere is is more difficult - and more important - than ever. Gini Dietrich is talking about how to do it this week on the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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AI is here, and if you're not using it to make your work more efficient, you're going to be left behind. There are tools available that can help you take whole days worth of work off of your desk - and Gini Dietrich is talking about them on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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The march of new AI tools continues on, and today, Gini Dietrich has another particularly interesting one to share with you. Google's NotebookLM has some functionality you have to hear to believe. That's what's happening this week on the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Sometimes you're asked to create content based on a subject matter expert who... doesn't actually have the time or desire to talk to you. This can be a recurring (and common!) problem and on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast Gini Dietrich is sharing a secret that makes it a lot easier. (Check out Leaps and use the code SpinSucks10 for a…
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More and more companies are requiring certification in the PESO Model© for new roles, and on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about how you can get yours.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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A 'growth hack' is a creative, low-cost strategy to quickly increase brand awareness, stay top of mind and even acquire customers. Gini Dietrich is sharing several, and how to use them so you can create some wins while you work on your longer term strategy this week on the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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If the answer is yes, then you don't have to worry about the next era of search. If the answer is no, you have some work to do, and that's what Gini Dietrich is talking about on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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It can often be difficult to stand by higher prices, negotiate higher salaries and to say no when a deal isn't in your favor, but these are critical skills that everyone - especially the next generation of women need to advance their businesses or careers. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about why it's so important, an…
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Sometimes when someone gets really excited about the (considerable!) possibilities of AI, they might start thinking about replacing their current marketing and communications support. Hopefully, they'llquickly learn why you can't replace real expertise with AI, and this week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is explaining why.…
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It can feel impossible to devote time every day to reading and keeping up to date on what is happening in the world and your industry - but having information and an understanding of what is going on lets you provide good advice and make good recommendations to your clients. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is making the case for …
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While the PESO model is the most effective way to create and track successful PR campaigns - it isn't always easy to implement. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the 5 most common struggles communicators find in rolling it out.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Sometimes when you quote a price the reaction is less than enthusiastic. Just because you get a little pushback doesn't mean you should back down, however. This week on the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about pricing your services based on the value you're providing - not just the time you're spending.…
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A request for proposals might still be a common way to hire a new agency, but it's far from the best one. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about the considerable disadvantages that come from using the RFP method to find a new strategic partner.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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There are no overnight successes in the Olympics or business. There are years of blood, sweat, and tears before success. Gini Dietrich points out that communications is a marathon, not a sprint, and shares key points in establishing a communications program that works for the long haul.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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Recently, Sticker Mule's Co-founder sent an expressly political email to the entire customer base of the company and then doubled down on the company X account. Whatever your political strip, there are messages that belong on company accounts and some that don't. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich is talking about what …
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The media environment is shifting and more brands are keeping a closer hold on their own narratives which means that PR pros need to adjust their approach. Gini Dietrich is talking about the new reality of Earned Media and how you can evolve with it on this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast.Gini Dietrich, Founder of Spin Sucks
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If you try to use an AI tool for a complex or creative task, you might be disappointed by the initial results, but as often as not, that is the fault of the prompt more than the LLM. On this week's episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast Gini Dietrich is talking about how the different AI platforms perform and how to provide enough training and context t…
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