KOL395 | Selling Does Not Imply Ownership, and Vice-Versa: A Dissection (PFS 2022)

Kinsella On Liberty

Note: An article based on the transcript (below) was published as Stephan Kinsella, "Selling Does Not Imply Ownership, and Vice-Versa: A Dissection," The Libertarian Standard (Oct. 25, 2022). An updated and revised version of this article appears as chap. 11 of Legal Foundations of a Free Society (Houston, Texas: Papinian Press, 2023). *** Kinsella on Liberty Podcast: Episode 395. From the recently-concluded Sixteenth Annual (2022) Meeting of the PFS, Bodrum, Turkey (Sep. 17, 2022). The video as well as slide presentation is also streamed below (ppt). I also recorded a version on my iphone. Also podcast at PFP245 | Stephan Kinsella, “Selling Does Not Imply Ownership, and Vice-Versa: A Dissection” (PFS 2022). See the following panel discussion at PFP246 | Hülsmann, Fusillo, Israel, Polleit, Kinsella, Discussion, Q&A (PFS 2022). Transcript below. See published article based on this talk, here: Stephan Kinsella, "Selling Does Not Imply Ownership, and Vice-Versa: A Dissection," The Libertarian Standard (Oct. 25, 2022; https://libertarianstandard.com/selling-does-not-imply-owning-and-vice-versa-a-dissection/); also at Freedom and Law substack. See also Walter Block's response: Walter E. Block, Block, "Rejoinder to Kinsella on ownership and the voluntary slave contract,” Management Education Science Technology Journal (MESTE) 11, no. 1 (Jan. 2023): 1-8 [pdf] For others, see the PFS YouTube channel, including the PFS 2022 YouTube Playlist. [For those interested in the Hoppe ringtone mentioned in the beginning: see this Facebook post or the opening to this podcast by Jared Howe.] https://youtu.be/5Q7chBHfHEQ Odysee: Panel discussion: https://youtu.be/Q3lvh5UqgxU Related: "Against Intellectual Property After Twenty Years: Looking Back and Looking Forward," the section "Selling Does Not Imply Ownership" The “If you own something, that implies that you can sell it; if you sell something, that implies you must own it first” Fallacies Libertarian Answer Man: Self-ownership for slaves and Crusoe; and Yiannopoulos on Accurate Analysis and the term “Property”; Mises distinguishing between juristic and economic categories of “ownership” The Non-Aggression Principle as a Limit on Action, Not on Property Rights IP and Aggression as Limits on Property Rights: How They Differ KOL044 | “Correcting some Common Libertarian Misconceptions” (PFS 2011) KOL049 | “Libertarian Controversies Lecture 5” (Mises Academy, 2011) KOL274 | Nobody Owns Bitcoin (PFS 2019) KOL004 | Interview with Walter Block on Voluntary Slavery and Inalienability Thoughts on Walter Block on Voluntary Slavery, Alienability vs. Inalienability, Property and Contract, Rothbard and Evers “On Conflictability and Conflictable Resources” How We Come To Own Ourselves Aggression and Property Rights Plank in the Libertarian Party Platform A Libertarian Theory of Contract: Title Transfer, Binding Promises, and Inalienability Cordato and Kirzner on Intellectual Property On the Danger of Metaphors in Scientific Discourse Hoppe, “A Note on Preference and Indifference in Economic Analysis” and “Further Notes on Preference and Indifference: Rejoinder to Block,” both in The Great Fiction Transcript Selling Does Not Imply Owning, and Vice Versa by Stephan Kinsella From the Sixteenth Annual (2022) Meeting of the Property and Freedom Society, Bodrum, Turkey (Sept. 17, 2022) 00:00:11 STEPHAN KINSELLA: Guido opened with some jokes. I’m not going to have any jokes, but I’ll open with a little light-hearted humor. This is my iPhone’s ring tone, my default ring tone [ring tone]. My wife really loves that, at restaurants. 00:00:32 Okay. My topic is—my title is Selling Does Not Imply Ownership—Owning, and Vice Versa, a Dissection. So I want to explore two related beliefs, which I think are fallacious, and they stem from confusions about core libertarian principles and confusions intr...