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On this week’s episode of the Joint Geeks of Staff, Ian sits down with Dan Kimball for his NavyCon talk about lessons in leadership, policy, and consequences from the Horizon game series. They talk about some enduring lessons for leaders and great powers while exploring a world of giant robot dinosaurs that eat people for fuel! Come with us and enj…
Reagan’s War Stories: Fiction and Policymakers On this week’s episode of the Joint Geeks of Staff, Ian and Claude sit down with West Point professor Ben Griffin to discuss his new book, Reagan’s War Stories: A Cold War Presidency. Together, we discuss how fiction shaped Reagan’s policymaking, the role of science fiction authors in the missile defen…
On this week’s episode of the Joint Geeks of Staff, hosts Cory Hollon and Thomas Harper welcome special guest Jason Beck. Jason is a DoD civilian working in the office of the Undersecretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness. With NAVYCON on hiatus this year for logistical reasons, we’ve decided to record a series of shows featuring the people …
DragonCon 2022 Panel 2: Star Wars: The Law of War The Joint Geeks are back for Season 3, and this time we’re live! This is our second panel from DragonCon 2022. Tom, Ian, and Cory are moderated by Clara and joined by a wonderful convention audience! We discuss the reasons for the law of war and delve into the case of the Death Star 2 plumbers. Legi…
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DragonCon 2022 Panel 1: Clones to Conscripts: Evolution of a Galactic Army
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The Joint Geeks are back for Season 3, and this time we’re live! This is our first panel from DragonCon 2022. Tom, Ian, and Cory are joined by Will Hudson and Kent Newland and a wonderful convention audience! We discuss how the galaxy far, far away dealt with the challenges of fielding a military. From leadership to recruitment to clones to conscri…
In the Season 2 finale, the gang sits down to review a difficult year and share what kept them going without burning out. Part 2 discusses the importance of faith, the need for authentic leadership, and times science fiction has helped the gang recover from burnout. Reach out to us via Discord at:discord.gg/6xg2sApfGJ The Joint Geeks on this episod…
Burnout Part 1 In the Season 2 finale, the gang sits down to review a difficult year and share what kept them going without burning out. Part 1 discusses the portrayals of burnout in Strange New Worlds and Kenobi, the nature of mentorship, and the too-often toxic seductiveness of service for the national security community. Reach out to us via Disc…
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“Into the Garbage Chute, Flyboy!” Why You Don’t See Air Forces in Science Fiction (Part 2) Ian and Cory sit down with Nick Narbutovskih for a two-parter about air power in science fiction and combined arms. In part 1 they talk about the high-level stuff–why does the Air Force exist? What makes AF special operations forces special? What does an air …
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“Into the Garbage Chute, Flyboy!” Why You Don’t See Air Forces in Science Fiction Ian and Cory sit down with Nick Narbutovskih for a two-parter about air power in science fiction and combined arms. In part 1 they talk about the high-level stuff–why does the Air Force exist? What makes AF special operations forces special? What does an air force do …
Ian, Eric, Annie, and Andy P. of The Great Derelict take a look at proxy wars--why they happen, what types of proxy wars are out there, and how sci-fi tends to portray these conflicts! Also in this episode, Annie reveals her true purpose, Andy plays his role as the EPH, Eric makes an unsurprising claim about the best sci-fi of all time, and Ian doe…
Clara and Ian broadcast a late 1 April episode after some technical issues that cropped up while they were on vacation. They break down the 13 Dimensions of a Foreign Service Officer using a case study from the Galaxy Far, Far Away! Learn about the rubric by which potential diplomats are judged through some absolutely fantastic examples taken from …
At the end of the episode, the Geeks gave their recommendations on how to help Ukrainian refugees. Here are the suggestions and links: IFRC Contribution page: https://donation.ifrc.org/?campaign=e8952a8a-5096-ec11-a2db-005056010027 (IFRC & ICRC have the lead on Ukraine efforts) ARC Information Page: https://www.redcross.org/about-us/news-and-events…
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You Can't Take the Sea From Me: The US Coast Guard's Role at Home, Abroad, and in Sci-fi Ian interviews Linden, a Coast Guard officer, and Matt, a diplomat, to talk about the role of the US Coast Guard in science fiction! They talk about law enforcement, customs, lifesaving, and presence operations at home, abroad, and in sci-fi! It’s all capped of…
Tom, Clara, Ian, and Eric take a look at The Book of Boba Fett and break down the good, the bad, and the ugly! We talk about the true cultural home for the story, discuss why it’s hard to tell who’s a revisionist power and who’s preserving the status quo, and explore how the Man in Green fails to make the transition from personal to organizational …
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Q Ships, Colonialism, and Great Power Competition: An Expanse Retrospective
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The Joint Geeks of Staff are back from mid-season hiatus! Claude Berube (@cgberube) returns with historian of colonialism Annie Muirhead (@LariaHoD), cinematographer, sci-fi superfan, and podcaster extraordinaire Andy Poulastides (@Andy3E), and professor, historian, and merchant mariner Sal Mercogliano (@mercoglianos) for a retrospective look at th…
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Damage Control Mode
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Ian and Cory look to Mark Vandroff and Sal Mercogliano to tell them how to save a sinking ship! The Joint Geeks cover damage control in the air, on land, on orbit, and at sea--what makes it necessary, how to do it, and how to make sure it’s done with as little effort as possible. Buckle up, because this one is all about when things get bumpy! Also …
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Consuls and Anthros and Diplos, Oh My! Diplomatic, Historical, and Anthropological Views on First Contact
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Hey all! This episode has some audio issues due to recording space and microphone constraints. We’ve tried our best to clean it up, and we’re trying to sack those responsible [Editor’s note: Ian. We mean Ian]. Hope you enjoy! –Ian Clara and Ian explore the challenges and opportunities of first contact with three guests: NavyCon keynote speaker Abby…
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Hit ‘Em With a Combo Move: Combined Arms Challenges, Opportunities, and Sci-Fi Representations
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Ian and Eric are joined by NavyCon presenters Andy Rucker and Bill Prom for a discussion of combined arms in sci-fi! They explore the challenges of combined arms in reality, the challenges of writing about combined arms in sci-fi, the importance of communications to those issues, and how different platforms contribute to all of the above. Also in t…
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Godzilla, Gundams, and Ronald McDonald: History and National Security in Japanese Sci-Fi and Media
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On this week’s new episode of the Joint Geeks of Staff, join hosts Eric Muirhead and Ian Boley as we welcome our guest, Dr. Nyri Bakkalian to discuss the role of history and national security in influencing Japanese science fiction and anime. How did centuries of military dictatorship influence post-World War II movies, manga, and television? How d…
Andy Poulastides returns, and Annie Muirhead joins us for the first time! We tackle the recent Dune movie with our unique Joint Geeks flair, examining the lessons the movie gives about human terrain, leadership, collective memory, and more. Also in this episode, Eric shows off his singing chops, Andy rhapsodizes about the Great Beard of the Galaxy,…
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Attorneys in the Machine: Capabilities and Legality of AI in National Security
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Our guest this week is Chris Dailey, a NavyCon presenter! Chris brings a wealth of knowledge about AI and teams up with Tom and Eric to give us a fascinating overview of what AI really is, how it works, what it’s used for, and what the legality of AI on the battlefield is. Check out his NavyCon presentation here: https://youtu.be/oPN9bEwJgQU Also i…
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Science Fiction Doesn't Count: Censuses and National Security
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It’s time to stand up and be counted! The gang tackles what censuses are all about, different types of censuses, what censuses can signal, and what censuses mean for national security. Ian Banks his Cultural knowledge, Clara reveals her love language, Tom bows to the superiority of Babylon 5, and Eric turns against The State… The book Clara mention…
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Recorded on 10 September, 2021. In this episode, Eric Muirhead(@StarfleetHIST), Ian Boley(@IBBoley), and Andy Poulastides (@Andy3E) discuss military life as portrayed by the new animated series Star Trek: Lower Decks. The team tackles neglectful field grade officers, boring military schools, what makes good mentorship, and--naturally--chain-smoking…
This episode we welcome Steve Leonard (@DoctrineMan), Kera Rolsen (@KeraRolsen), Kelsey Cipolla, and our very own Clara Engle Boley to discuss their soon-to-be released work To Boldly Go: Leadership, Strategy, and Conflict in the 21st Century. We discuss the genesis of the project, leadership, inclusion, interstellar norms, and why Poe Dameron was …
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We’re back! In this episode, the Joint Geeks reconvene to discuss their summers and whether or not Luke Skywalker ever did anything of note as an onscreen leader. Clara reveals her true power, Ian cuts loose with his most accurate impression yet, Eric recognizes he has a problem, and Cory tries something new…Check out our Discord at discord.gg/6xg2…
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The Great Debate: X-Wing, Y-Wing, or B-Wing?
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From Thomas Harper: The American Red Cross will host a special Star Wars Day event on May 4th at 12pm eastern exploring the world of International Humanitarian Law through the lens of the galaxy far far away. If you’ve ever wondered about the legal issues in using the Death Star to destroy a planet or whether the Princess Leia was right to be angry…
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Star Wars and the Laws of War
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From Thomas Harper: The American Red Cross will host a special Star Wars Day event on May 4th at 12pm eastern exploring the world of International Humanitarian Law through the lens of the galaxy far far away. If you’ve ever wondered about the legal issues in using the Death Star to destroy a planet or whether the Princess Leia was right to be angry…
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Dank Memes, Merchant Marines, and Earth-Shattering Kabooms: The Asymmetric Threats Posed by Merchant Ships in Sci-fi and Reality
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If you want to learn more about merchant shipping, but don’t know where to start, this book is a good option. There are more in-depth pieces out there, but this is one of the best summaries for the layperson. Check out: Rose George, Ninety Percent of Everything: Inside Shipping, the Invisible Industry That Puts Clothes on Your Back, Gas in Your Car…
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"You’re Not my Space Dad! Edward Jellico and William Riker in Star Trek: The Next Generation"
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Intro and outro music composed and performed by Greg MutersbaughThe Joint Geeks of Staff
If you’re interested in going deeper into the theories we mentioned on the show, check out our works cited page: The origins of realist theory can be found in the works of Thucydides, but you don’t have to read The Peloponnesian War to get a grasp on the basics of the topic. For defensive realism, a good starting place is: Kenneth N. Waltz, “The Or…
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Books mentioned on the show: Campbell, Joseph and Bill Moyers. The Power Of Myth. New York, NY: Anchor Books, 1991. Campbell, Joseph. The Hero With a Thousand Faces. New York, NY: Pantheon Books, 1949. Brooks, Max and John Amble, ML Cavanaugh and Jaym Gates. Winning Westeros: How Game of Thrones Explains Modern Military Conflict. Lincoln, NE: Potom…
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Episode 7: My Captain Could Beat Up Your Captain
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The Joint Geeks on this episode are Cory Hollon (@cory_hollon), Eric Muirhead (@StarfleetHist), Matthew Ader (@AderMatthew), Ian Boley (@IBBoley), and Clara Engle Boley. Join the conversation on Discord (https://discord.gg/GzFcpRqV) or Twitter (@thejointgeeks). Our parent organization is NavyCon (@anavycon) Intro and outro music composed and perfor…
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Superweapons in Science Fiction and Reality
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Several links for those who want to help with the recovery in Texas are here: https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/how-to-help-texans-recover-from-the-winter-disaster/ Works cited: For an example of what salami tactics are and how things could play out, see this clip from Yes, Prime Minister: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxbFk4viTSQ Thomas Schellin…
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Why Cory Won’t Fly with Luke Skywalker: Training Challenges in Sci-Fi and Reality
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The Joint Geeks are: Clara Engle, Ian Boley, Eric Muirhead, Matthew Ader, Cory Hollon, Thomas Harper, and Claude Berube. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those of the US gover…
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Impact of the Clone Wars on Rebel and Imperial Doctrine in the First Galactic Civil War
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The Joint Geeksare:Clara Engle, Ian Boley, Eric Muirhead, Matthew Ader, Cory Hollon, ChrisWeuve, Thomas Harper, and Claude Berube. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those of th…
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Roll Pods: David Weber's Honorverse, the U.S. Navy, and China
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The Joint Geeks are: Clara Engle, Ian Boley, Eric Muirhead, Matthew Ader, Cory Hollon, Chris Weuve, Thomas Harper, and Claude Berube. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those of…
The Joint Geeks on this episode are: Clara Engle, Ian Boley, Eric Muirhead, Cory Hollon, and Claude Berube. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those of the US government or Depa…
The Joint Geeks on this episode are: Clara Engle, Ian Boley, Eric Muirhead, Cory Hollon, and Claude Berube. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those of the US government or Depa…
Four of the Joint Geeks of Staff are on this episode. The other Joint Geeks are: Clara Engle, Tom Harper, Chris Weuve and Matthew Ader. The Joint Geeks of Staff can be found on Twitter at @thejointgeeks. As several of the Joint Geeks are on active duty in the military or reserve or federal employees, the views expressed are their own and not those …
The Joint Geeks of Staff: Clara "the Borg Queen" Engle Ian "I'm Clara's husband" Boley Chris Weuve Matthew "Black" Ader Cory "I can paint my F-15 helmet now?" Hollon Eric "yes, I really speak Klingon" Muirhead Tom "Y-wings blah blah blah" Harper Claude "call this NavyCon" BerubeThe Joint Geeks of Staff
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Episode 1: Civil War and The Mandalorian
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The Joint Geeks of Staff discuss science fiction within the context of contemporary and historical national security issues.Intro and outro composed by Greg Mutersbaugh.cory hollon, Clara Engle, Matthew Ader, ian boley, eric muirhead, thomas harper