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Welcome to Wósdéé podcast. My name is Majerle Lister. This podcast will be focused on discussions I believe are important to Diné people. I can say for certain that there will be a plethora of topics discussed ranging from politics to comic books. My goal is to discuss and navigate the current topics on and off the Navajo Nation. The name of the podcast comes from the Navajo translation of “come in”. Growing up with my grandparents, I remember clearly the routine of visitors knocking on the ...
 
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In this episode, I speak to Sandra Yellowhorse about her recent article, "Disability and Indigenous resistance: mapping value politics during the time of COVID-19" (2022). We discuss capitalist notions of productivity, value rubrics, and disability in a settler-colonial state. We think through these themes in the context of the pandemic in the Nava…
 
In this episode I talk to Bijiibah Ruth about the potential of cooperatives within the Navajo Nation. We briefly cover the cooperative history, social solidarity characteristic of cooperatives, and how they can exist in the Navajo Nation. We discuss the limits to cooperatives which are the same obstacles that small businesses have regarding bureauc…
 
In this episode, I spoke to Ezra Rosser, a law professor, on Federal Indian law & poverty. We talked about Navajo corruption, land use, property, and economic development. We talk about cover economic development literature(dominated by neo-classical theory) and limitations in the Navajo context. Link to purchase book: https://www.cambridge.org/cor…
 
In this episode I talk to Dr. Teresa Montoya and Dr. Marc Emerson about their recent article, "Confronting Legacies of Structural Racism and Settler-colonialism to understand covid 19 impacts on the Navajo Nation". We discuss public health and critical expansion of the concept. Both articulate the limits of western epistemologies and the potential …
 
In this episode, I talk to Brian Young about his new book, 'Healer of the Water Monster'. I've known Brian since our time at Diné Policy Institute. His new book was released in May of 2021. We talk about the story, themes, and his experience pitching the book to publishers. I highly recommend it. I've include a link for purchasing the book below: w…
 
In this episode I talk to Rodney Barker, the author of the Broken Circle. His book details the events during the summer of 1974 in Farmington, NM. In 1974, three Navajo men, Herman Dodge Benally, John Earl Harvey, and David Ignacio were murdered by white teens. From April to June, Navajo organizers strategized and implemented actions to oppose the …
 
In this episode, I interview Tré Orona about his new album, Dead Renaissance, which is releasing May 7th, 2021. We discuss the inspirations, Marxism, books, common sense/hegemony, and political conditions that provided the groundwork for the album. I would like to thank Tré for joining me on the podcast. The album, 'Dead Renaissance' can be purchas…
 
I remember calling folks with a phone card with a limited amount of minutes but if I waited until 9pm I would have access to unlimited minutes. I'm feeling nostalgic for that so I dedicated a podcast episode to calling my friends asking about their stories based on various topics. In this episode, I asked artist friends of mine about their funniest…
 
On February 1975, a group of 20 Indigenous activists from the American Indian Movement and the Coalition for Navajo liberation took over the Fairchild Semiconductor plant in Shiprock, Navajo Nation. As Dr. Lisa Nakamura describes, Fairchild chose to insource from the Navajo Nation due to cheap labor, tax benefits, and Federal monies. After eight da…
 
In this episode, I speak to Corey Ashley(Diné) and Jacob Stepetin (Unangax) from Merciless Indian Savages. Joseph (Hopi and Akimel O'oodham) was unable to join. We discuss their formation, inspirations, purpose of Merciless Indian Savages. Thank you to Jacob and Corey for talking to me. Their album will drop on December 31st. Their album design was…
 
In this episode I talk to Zoe Toledo. Zoe is a Master's student studying Architecture at Harvard University. I found her article, "Experiments in Navajo “Modernity”: Demonstration Stations and Regional Development in the 1930s", while conducting research on the Navajo livestock reduction. We talk about the use of the modernity narrative, developmen…
 
In this episode I speak with Mercedes Peters.with Mercedes Peters. She is a Mi’kmaw history Ph.d student at UBC. We talk about the current situation in Saulnierville in Digby County in Novia Scotia. Mi’kmaw fishers established a lobster fishery with 350 traps, smaller than commercial fishing, to provide for their families and community. Settler fis…
 
We saw some capitalist propaganda floating in social media made by Navajo conservatives. So we decided to make fun of the propaganda. We look at Turning Point's high production, low education quality, video on the Navajo people and socialism. In the spirit of Vine Deloria Jr., we get sarcastic and critical of colonial ideologies. We cuss and contex…
 
In this episode I talk to Kyle and Breanna about Dineh Benally’s hemp production in Shiprock, Navajo Nation. Breanna is a graduate student in Public Health, a farmer, and community advocator. Kyle is a community organizer where he is currently working on reintroducing healthy foods. He has been on the podcast before. Both are community members of S…
 
In this episode, I talk to Carl Slater who is a Navajo Nation council delegate. We start our discussion looking at sovereignty and what it means to him. We imagine a form of sovereignty that is embedded in Navajo values and philosophy. We explore ideas of sovereignty based on his experience as a Navajo delegate. From there we discuss discourses onl…
 
In this episode I speak with Dr. Ryan Emanuel. He is a Lumbee associate professor at North Carolina state in the Department of Forestry and Environmental Resources. In this episode we discuss the Atlantic Pipeline and the recent decision to cancel its construction on July 7th, 2020. The pipeline began in 2013 under the Obama administration. It was …
 
In Episode 24, I talk to the members of @an-illustrated-mess about their recent release with Fake Four Inc, 'Last Night, and all our Glorious Mishaps'. We talk about their history, influences, and future plans as a hip/hop group. We delve into ideas of border towns, the music scenes surrounding the Navajo Nation, and artistic influences. Check and …
 
In this episode, I talk to Bert Benally. His work on art education reflects Navajo philosophy that challenges western approaches to art. He offers experiences and principles that guide his work and methods. He argues that accountability and respect for Navajo rules are important when creating art. He does not dismiss all of western approaches to ar…
 
In this episode I talk to Ana Rameriaz. She is a second year Phd student in Anthropology. She identifies as Maya Akateca. We talk about her experience in graduate school particularly in a anthropology. We unpack the experience of being in a white discipline. She discusses her introduction to anthropology, critiques of the discipline, and the import…
 
In this dispatch episode, I edit a recording from the "Invisible No More Event" at University of North Carolina. The panel is all mayan discussion Mayan migration. The participants are Gio’ B’atz’ (K’iche’ Maya)Floridalma Boj Lopez (K’iche’ Maya)Juanita Cabrera Lopez (Maya Mam),Geronimo Ramirez (Ixil Maya), and Mercedes Say (K’iche’ Maya). The them…
 
In episode 20, I speak to Fredy Grefa, a PhD candidate at the Geography Department of UNC, about the demonstrations in Ecuador. He talks about the Indigenous resistance, leadership, and strategies in the context of the current protests. He speaks to how the Indigenous people organized themselves to lead the people through social movements and allia…
 
In episode 19, I speak to Frankie Bauer, a citizen of the Choctaw nation of Oklahoma. He is a Ph.D student at University of North Carolina. We discuss the term period of 1817-1824 where Cherokee and Osage nations created inter-tribal treaties with the U.S. mediating. The inter-tribal treaties did not hold up but provide an analysis of the role of U…
 
In episode 18, I talk to Cody Fetty about Indigenous feminism. Cody explains their experience as an educator for Black Mesa Water Coalition and how the discussion of Indigenous Feminism plays out. We look at the idea of matriarchy and what it means for feminism to be inclusive. From the discussion, the importance of responsibility and accountabilit…
 
Welcome to season 2! In episode 17, I speak to Tia Folgheraiter a student at Dartmouth. She speaks about the racist mural at the university and the effect it had on the college community, both native and non-native. She briefly goes over the organizing that occurred to get it removed. As a coincidence, we were near University of North Carolina wher…
 
In Episode 15, I talk to Michael Parrish about Title 26, Local Governance Act. We discuss the political legislation and its potential and limitations. Michael has been studying the Navajo Local Governance for three years. We have worked together for just as long. intro/outr music by: @purplecatsinslacks…
 
In this episode I talk to James Courage Singer about his political pursuits, inspirations, electoral politics, and much more. He explains his analysis of the current problems within Utah and what he hopes to accomplish. James Singer is a professor at Salt Lake Community College in the Sociology department. He is currently running for Congress in Ut…
 
In this episode, I talk to people at the Diné Introspective First Inaugural Full Circle Conference in Shiprock, Navajo Nation. I speak to both members of Diné Introspective and participants about the conference and the reasons behind the event. The conference began on October 4, 2018 and ended on October 7, 2018. Diné Introspective members organize…
 
In this episode, I talk to Jen Byers, a journalist and now Assistant Producer at AJ+ news media, about the Big Media, Grassroots Media, and Politics. The media is pertinent to politics and we work our way through the discussion with the ways they connect in mind. We also discuss the role of journalists and some advice she has for people who want to…
 
In Episode 9, I talk to Eugénie Clément Picos about food movements, food sovereignty, and how it has played out on the Navajo Nation. Eugénie is a Ph.d student from Spain and she has chosen the Navajo Nation for her place of study. We discuss the corporations, power dynamics, her personal background that lead her to study food movements, and her ex…
 
In Episode 11, I sit and talk to Cody Artis about our passion, philosophy. We start with phenomenology, existentialism, and marxism. Cody has been forging knives and we look at work through different philosophical lenses. We look at how work is gendered and how capitalism alienates the producers. Work has changed for Navajo people since colonialism…
 
In this episode, Dr. Andrew Curley talks to Alastair Bitsóí about their experience covering the Bears Ears movement. They open up the discussion with "public lands" status and how the concept relates to the larger movement. They discuss the land status of Bears Ears. Bitsóí also speaks to the beginning of the movement with the different tribes that…
 
In Episode 8, I talk to Tenzin Yangkey about the similarities between Navajo and Tibetan struggles. The topics range from the history of Tibet, the eventual exiled Tibetan communities, the role of resources in the both Navajo Nation and Tibet, the aspirations of the Tibetan People.
 
In Episode 7, I talk to Napoleon Marrietta about struggles within his and other communities surrounding Phoenix, Arizona. We discuss Loop 202, South Mountain Freeway, and its development on Oodham land. In this discussion, the topic of tribal consultation and colonial courts surfaces. We discuss the border on indigenous lands, Tohono Oo'dham land, …
 
Episode 6 I talk to Damon and Tatum. We discuss comic books, identity, inspirations, and other topics. Both are Diné comic book artists who reside in Phoenix. They participate in the comic book locale. Damon Begay: tapas.io/damonbegay7 instagram: interstellar.comix Tatum: tapastic.com/tatumbowie instagram: 90sbowie Intro/Outro Music: @PurpleCatsInS…
 
Episode 5: I speak to Rylin Becenti about art, her experience as an artist, influences, politics, and art school. We discuss her views on art and how art can be powerful based on the artist, how it interacts with space, and how it interacts the audience. We also look at the way capitalism commodifies Indigenous art, artists, and creates problems fo…
 
Episode 4, I speak to Vicki Kee, a grazing committee member for 12 years, about the horses, grazing, and land management on the Navajo Nation. We begin our discussion looking at the recent deaths of horses in Gray Mountain and make our way into the larger topics. Intro/Outro Music: @PurpleCatsInSlacks Photo: A Navajo woman riding horse, near Ganado…
 
Episode 3: I spoke to Rebecca Jones about reproductive justice, intersectionality, solidarity, and music. We discuss the reproductive justice and what it means for indigenous people and how intersectionality provides a critical lens for the world. We also discuss how reproductive justice has influenced her world view, actions, and music. Sistersong…
 
In episode 2, I speak to Dr. Andrew Curley about neoliberalism, the Navajo Nation, and socialism. He provides insight into neoliberalism and how it manifests in the Navajo Nation. He also speaks to his views on socialism and what he imagines for indigenous people. We also have special guest appearance from George Bush and Bernie Sanders. Intro/Outr…
 
I spoke to Dr. Franklin Sage about his research regarding Higher Education and Indigenous student. We discuss the role of education has in colonization as an assimilation process. Western education instilled in indigenous people patriarchal tendencies and individualistic mindset. Education produced gender roles that shifted indigenous people away f…
 
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