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Walking Worthy BEFORE the End 58:48

8y ago58:48

58:48

This is the first of two lessons that Ed Stevens presented at the 2016 Blue Point End Times Conference. This lesson discusses the kind of godly lifestyle that the pre-70 saints maintained, and explains WHY they lived that way. Their reasons for living sensibly, righteously, and godly during that time of persecution right before the End, was somewha…

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Walking Worthy AFTER the End 48:53

8y ago48:53

48:53

This is the second of two lessons that Ed Stevens presented at the 2016 Blue Point Endtimes Conference. The first lesson looked at HOW the pre-70 saints lived, and WHY they lived that way. We looked at their expectations and hope and other motivations to live holy lives. In this second lesson we apply those principles to our lives today. We show wh…

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Deity of Christ and the Trinity 48:00

10y ago48:00

48:00

The most important doctrine in all of Biblical revelation is the Deity of Christ and the Trinity. This teaching is certainly hard to wrap our minds around, but fortunately a full understanding of it is not crucial to our salvation. What is essential, however, is that we believe in the Deity of Christ, regardless of whether we fully understand it. S…

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Passing of Heaven & Earth - Chilton 1:01:51

10y ago1:01:51

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David Chilton gave these two speeches at a full preterist conference in Oklahoma City in 1997, not long after he had become a full preterist, and only a few months before he died. That was the occasion when he made the now famous remark: “...Here I am as a Full Preterist.” Chilton explained the meaning of Matthew 5:17-20 where Jesus predicted the p…

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Times of the Gentiles (Lk 21.24) 1:07:24

10y ago1:07:24

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Premillennialists connect the “Times of the Gentiles” (Lk 21:24) with the “fullness of the Gentiles” (Rom 11:25), and claim that both texts will only be fulfilled after “all Israel” has accepted Jesus as Messiah, returned to the land of Israel, and rebuilt the temple. They see the “times of the Gentiles” as being the whole period from AD 70 until t…

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John 14 and Dwelling Places 1:06:25

10y ago1:06:25

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We explain John 14:3 to show that Jesus was promising a real cognitive experiential "reception" (rapture) of his disciples into the unseen realm of heaven at His Parousia. Critics of the first century rapture have to SPIRITUALIZE the "dwelling places" language, and IGNORE the "receive you to Myself" promise of Jesus! But that was NOT just figurativ…

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How Eschatology Affects Our Ethics 33:46

10y ago33:46

33:46

This is the first episode of our Summer 2014 Series. You are in for a treat this summer. We will be presenting some of our best seminar presentations, and former Preterist Radio podcasts that have not yet been posted here. This session will share a message that I presented at the 2009 Evangelical Theological Society conference in New Orleans. There…

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Fall of Masada (AD 73) 1:02:16

10y ago1:02:16

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After Titus dismantled Jerusalem, gathered its spoils, and dispersed its captives, he left Judea to join his father in Rome. He commissioned Bassus and Silva to capture the three remaining rebel fortresses of Herodium, Macherus, and Masada. The Roman soldiers overturned every stone of the temple building in order to get the gold and silver that had…

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Siege of Jerusalem (AD 70) 59:39

10y ago59:39

59:39

Vespasian was proclaimed emperor by his troops in Judea, Egypt, and Syria. He left Palestine to go to Egypt before heading to Rome. He left his son Titus in Judea to begin the siege of Jerusalem. Titus waited until the city was full of people at Passover time to begin the siege. We read a number of passages from Josephus which have parallels in the…

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Zealot Factions (AD 68-70) 54:46

10y ago54:46

54:46

Vespasian bottled up the Jews in Jerusalem, so that he could fight them all together in one place in one big decisive battle. Then Nero died and Rome was plunged into civil war and external rebellions. The Zealots thought that would force the Roman army to make peace with them and leave Judea. Wrong! After a year-long suspension of warfare, Titus c…

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Vespasian Gained Control (AD 67-69) 41:38

10y ago41:38

41:38

Vespasian literally went from victory to victory. He finished reducing all the pockets of resistance in Galilee, and sent detachments all over the Decapolis, Perea, Judea, Idumea, Samaria, and Jericho, methodically driving out all the remaining rebels and forcing them to flee to Jerusalem. There were rumors of revolt in Turkey, so Vespasian quicken…

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Josephus vs. Vespasian (AD 67) 44:31

10y ago44:31

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This time we dig a little deeper into the details of the Galilean campaign of Vespasian and Titus, as they began to subjugate all the fortified cities of Galilee (AD 67). Josephus had tried to unite all the cities of Galilee under his command, and get them fortified before the Romans attacked. But it simply did not work. Some of the Galilean cities…

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The War Began (AD 66) 55:14

10y ago55:14

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We give a quick overview of the first year and a half of the Jewish War with Rome, which began in earnest in the Spring of AD 67. When Nero heard about the humiliating defeat of Cestius Gallus in the Fall of AD 66, he immediately sent Vespasian, one of his most capable generals, to settle the score. Vespasian and his son Titus gathered three legion…

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Cestius Humiliated by Zealots (AD 66) 47:20

10y ago47:20

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After Eleazar b. Ananias lawlessly put a stop to all Gentile sacrifices, the Moderates and pro-Roman citizens of Jerusalem pleaded with him to restore the sacrifices, but he refused. This division between the Moderates in the upper city and the Zealots in the Temple rapidly degenerated into armed conflict. Menahem overpowered the Roman garrison on …

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Put a Stop to Sacrifices (AD 66) 52:13

10y ago52:13

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We are continuing to build a chronology of the Zealot rebellion and their war with Rome. We pick up the historical narrative in May of AD 66 just after Gessius Florus had attempted to seize all the remaining temple gold. This action by Florus forced the Zealots to revolt. Josephus mentions several of the reasons why the Zealots broke with Rome at t…

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Eleazar Blew the Horn (AD 66) 45:32

10y ago45:32

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We begin by looking at how the Zealot leader Eleazar started the rebellion by blowing the ram's horn and rallying the troops inside Jerusalem to block Gessius Florus's attempt to get the rest of the imageless gold coins out of the Temple. This shows how Eleazar was the originator of the revolt, and the fulfillment of the Man of Lawlessness. Josephu…

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Historical Review (AD 64-66) 54:38

10y ago54:38

54:38

After a few months of looking at the book of Romans, we are now picking back up with our historical studies. The last two historical podcasts (July and August 2013) dealt with the military campaigns of Cestius Gallus and Vespasian against the Zealot forces. Before getting into the chronology of the whole war (AD 66-70), we need to review the events…

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Listener Interaction Session 50:26

10y ago50:26

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It has been almost two months since we shared some of the great listener feedback that we are getting. This is always interesting and encouraging for other listeners who often have the same thoughts and questions. The first question wanted an explanation of the differences between the Futurist Bodies Out of the Ground resurrection view (BOG) and th…

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Rom 12 - Bodies as Living Sacrifices 59:28

10y ago59:28

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As Douglas Moo notes in his Romans commentary, "Romans 12:1-2 is one of the best-known passages in the New Testament." Here Paul urges the Roman saints to present their bodies as living sacrifices to God, and be transformed by a renewal of their minds. Since some of the Collective Body advocates use this text to support their resurrection view, we …

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Rom 8 - Redemption of Our Body 54:20

10y ago54:20

54:20

Another of the most important texts which the Collective Body View (CBV) uses to support its concept of a collective body resurrection is Romans 8:23. They contend that the phrase “our body” mentioned here in this text is a reference to the collective body (the church) being resurrected or “redeemed” at the Parousia. Through grammatical and context…

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Rom 8 - Give Life to Mortal Bodies 47:53

10y ago47:53

47:53

We study three uses of the word "body" (Gk SOMA) which are found in Romans chapter eight, verses 10, 11, and 13. When Paul said their "body is dead because of sin" (Rom 8:10), he meant that their bodies were mortal (subject to death, because of sin). Paul said that at the Parousia God would "give life to your [plural] mortal bodies [plural]" (Rom 8…

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Rom 7 - This Body of Death 42:15

10y ago42:15

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We look at two more of the thirteen uses of the word "body" found here in Romans chapter seven, verses 4 and 24. The Collective Body View interprets both of these references to "body" as being collective. However, we show from the context that a collective application of these two texts is absurd, and makes total nonsense out of Paul's flow of thou…

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Biblical Foundations 1:08:13

10y ago1:08:13

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This week I listened to one of Ken Ham's presentations on the Biblical Foundations of Western Civilization. He clearly shows that our compromise with Evolution in the interpretation of Genesis 1-11 has played a major role in destroying the foundations of our nation, culture, and the Church. Moreover, we show how some preterists are continuing that …

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Romans 6 – Body of Sin 51:58

10y ago51:58

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We pick back up on our study of the thirteen uses of the word "body" here in Romans. In this session we get down into the context of Romans chapter six to examine two of those "body" texts found in verses 6 and 12. We use the paraphrase translation of F. F. Bruce to help us grasp what Paul is saying in this chapter, and then show that all of its te…

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Listener Feedback and Mt 27:52f 49:07

10+ y ago49:07

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Every few months we accumulate a good supply of emails from listeners asking questions and making comments. This is always high interest content and extremely helpful for a lot of other listeners who have the same questions. There are several comments and questions about the differences between the two resurrection views within Preterism: the Colle…

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Rom - Collective Body Fallacies 38:14

10+ y ago38:14

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We take a historical look at the last sixty years since John A. T. Robinson developed his Collective Body concept, and how Max King adopted it and applied it to his resurrection eschatology. We quote from Robinson's 1952 book on The Body, as well as from a couple of recent authors (Holland and Gundry) who have interacted with Robinson's views. We s…

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Romans - Definition of Body 55:34

10+ y ago55:34

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We first look at the lexical definition of the Greek word SOMA (body), as it relates to the uses of that word in the book of Romans. Paul uses the word "body" thirteen times in the book of Romans. We briefly look at each of those thirteen verses to determine how each of them are used, either in an individual body sense, or in a collective body sens…

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Rom 6 - What Kind of Baptism? 1:00:27

10+ y ago1:00:27

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There is a wide variation of views on baptism among the various Christian traditions. That is no less the case among preterists. Rom 6:3-4 is a good text to study if you want to see how various interpreters explain baptism. Some preterists understand it as water baptism, while others see it as "spirit baptism" or some other metaphorical concept. So…

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Romans - Meaning of Creation 34:06

10+ y ago34:06

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One well-known preterist leader who holds the Collective Body View recently taught that the word "creation" as used in Eph 2:10 and Rom 1:20 is referring to Old Testament Israel. That idea is very similar to the Covenant Creationist view, which he says he does not agree with. We examine the context of Rom 1:20 to show that the phrase "creation of t…

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Romans - THE sin or SIN? 44:23

10+ y ago44:23

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Some of the Collective Body advocates have suggested that "the sin" referred to in Rom 6:1 is pointing exclusively to the original sin in the Fall of Adam, and that Paul is talking about a collective body "in Adam" being raised out of "the sin" of Adam into new life in the collective body of Christ. In order for them to make this argument, they hav…

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Rom 6 - Two Questions 35:27

10+ y ago35:27

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Advocates for the Collective Body view of the resurrection have asserted that the phrase "THE sin" in Rom 6:1 should be understood as a reference to "THE Law." They then use that idea to suggest that Paul is urging Jewish Christians to quit keeping the Law (instead of stop sinning). We show how that can not be the correct understanding of Rom 6:1. …

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Rom 3-5 - The Good News 42:20

10+ y ago42:20

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We give a brief report of our experience at the Evangelical Theological Society conference in Baltimore last week, where we had dozens of great interactions with the attendees there. While there, I found a couple of very helpful books which explain what the New Perspective on Paul is all about. Then we get back into our study of Romans 3-5. In the …

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Rom 1-3 - Bad News First 1:00:21

10+ y ago1:00:21

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The first three chapters of Romans lock up all humanity, including the Jews, under condemnation. That is very bad news for everyone, especially for the Jews who considered themselves as automatically saved. Before Paul gives them the good news, he unloads this bad news on them first. How was "ALL ISRAEL" saved at the Parousia in AD 70? How did the …

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Romans - Context and Outline 1:04:41

10+ y ago1:04:41

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Two of the key hermeneutical tools we use to interpret any biblical text are: (1) the historical context out of which the book was produced, and (2) the purposes which it was written to accomplish. It also helps if we have a good outline that traces the flow of thought in the text. We provide all this in this podcast and show how it helps us interp…

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Romans - Flow of Thought 37:45

10+ y ago37:45

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We continue our introductory comments and survey of the contents of Apostle Paul's letter to the first century Christians in Rome. One of the best overviews of the flow of thought found in the book of Romans was written in the Preface of Haldane's commentary on Romans. He notes that Paul's goal for his argumentation was to convince both Jews and Ge…

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Romans - Introduction 54:23

10+ y ago54:23

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Every prophetic view (futurist and preterist) uses the book of Romans as a source for its particular approach to fulfillment. How we interpret Romans can make a big difference not only in our eschatological perspectives, but in our understanding of salvation as well. In this introduction, we note that the book of Romans is not talking about a colle…

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Overview of 1 Cor 15 1:02:57

10+ y ago1:02:57

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In the past several podcasts we have looked at bits and pieces of the 1Cor 15 context. In this session we summarize all that and provide the overall big picture of what Paul is saying about the resurrection here in his letters to the Corinthian saints. We share some further insights into this text which show clearly and conclusively that Paul is NO…

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Expectations of a Change 54:59

10+ y ago54:59

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What were the pre-70 saints expecting to see, hear, and EXPERIENCE at the Parousia? Was it going to be a non-cognitive and un-experienced event, with those saints left on earth afterwards not even aware that the Parousia had occurred? Apostle Paul promised the living saints that they would be CHANGED at the Parousia. The dead would be raised, but t…

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"Being Raised" in 1 Corinthians 15 52:02

10+ y ago52:02

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Advocates for the Collective Body View (CBV) of the resurrection claim that the Present Passive form of the Greek verb EGEIRO ("are raised") can ONLY be legitimately translated as "are BEING raised" with the sense of an ongoing process of resurrection of the collective body. On the basis of that claim, they label other preterists (IBV) as being fut…

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WHO and WHERE were the Dead? 44:55

10+ y ago44:55

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Futurists think that “the Dead” is a reference to dead physical bodies in the graves, so that the phrase “resurrection of the Dead” means dead bodies being raised out of the graves. Some fellow preterists think “the Dead” is referring to the collective body being raised out of covenantally dead Judaism. However, we look at numerous scriptures in th…

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"Our Body" – Collective or Individual? 1:06:13

10+ y ago1:06:13

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One of the most important texts which the Collective Body View (CBV) uses to support its concept of a collective body resurrection is Philippians 3:21. They contend that the phrase “our body” mentioned here in this text is a reference to the collective body (the church) being resurrected or “transformed” at the Parousia. Through grammatical and con…

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Why Bodies Were Not Raised? 54:02

10+ y ago54:02

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Futurists relentlessly pester us preterists with the nagging question: "There is no record of bodies coming out of the graves in AD 70. If the dead were raised at that time, why were the physical bodies of the dead saints NOT raised?" In this session we look at some of the various concepts of resurrection that are mentioned in the Bible, including …

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Resurrection out of Sheol-Hades 53:21

10+ y ago53:21

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There is so much confusion in both futurism and preterism about the place in the unseen realm called Sheol or Hades. We take an in-depth look at the Old Testament concept of Sheol to show that it was the place where the conscious disembodied souls of all the dead, both wicked and righteous, were held captive until the resurrection and judgment of t…

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Genesis: Myth, Figurative or Historical? 57:55

10+ y ago57:55

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Is the Genesis account of Creation and the Flood literal and historical, or merely figurative or mythological? And how does that relate to the Preterist view and our explanation of the NATURE of fulfillment of the endtime events? Every systematic theology has to deal with Genesis, and the way they interpret it will automatically determine how the r…

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Fruit of the Collective Body Tree 33:26

10+ y ago33:26

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Advocates of the Collective Body resurrection view have accused the Individual Body View of being futurist because we teach that we get a new immortal body and go to heaven at physical death. However, we reverse those charges, and show that the Collective Body View has produced some very rotten fruit by teaching that we are in "heaven now," and hav…

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Resurrection Predicted in Genesis 58:17

10+ y ago58:17

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We start off by reading some listener feedback, which notes that most of the confusion about the Resurrection within the Preterist movement comes from a misunderstanding of the opening chapters of Genesis. There is a direct connection between Genesis, with its origin of sin and death through Adam, and the Resurrection that comes through Christ Jesu…

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Perfection Now, but Not Here 58:39

10+ y ago58:39

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This episode is a special treat. We play excerpts from one of Arthur Melanson's radio programs where he explains the meaning of Heb. 11:30-40, regarding the "better resurrection" at the first century Parousia, which perfected both the living and dead saints. In the second half of the session, I explain how this idea of perfection is dealt with in 1…

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Vespasian Begins the War 54:27

10+ y ago54:27

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After Nero heard about the failure of Cestius Gallus to crush the Jewish rebellion, he dispatched his most able general Vespasian to do it right this time. Over the winter of 66-67, Vespasian and Titus assembled three legions and hordes of other auxiliaries and mercenaries to launch the attack in the Spring of AD 67. Vespasian was successful in des…

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Refuting Resurrection Errors 54:05

10+ y ago54:05

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Recently there has arisen a couple of false accusations against the Individual Body View of the Resurrection by the hyper-cessationist skeptic Chris Camillo and some of the advocates of the Collective Body View. Here we address both charges and expose their fallacies, and provide a clear explanation of some of the differences between the Individual…

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Cestius Gallus Fiasco (AD 66) 41:44

11y ago41:44

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We look at the early months of the Jewish rebellion (August through December AD 66). We notice how the Zealots quickly organized their government and prepared for the Roman attack. The Roman Legate in Antioch, Cestius Gallus, did not waste any time responding to the rebellion, but his attack on Jerusalem was mismanaged from start to finish. His ret…

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